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Hey, thanks. Did I understand correctly that feastingmen/amegagame returned you when you contacted them through their site's email or is digikey down?

I've been waiting a week for an answer from amegagame without success. How long did it take you to reply?

Hei, kiitos. Ymmärsinkö oikein feastingmen/amegagame palauttivat sinulle kun otit heidän sivujen sähköpostin kautta heihin yhteyttä vai ovatko digikey alla?

olen odottanut nimittäin viikon vastausta amegagame tuloksetta. Kauanko sinulla meni vastaukseen?

Astropay is PSP.. Can that be true? And will they give in?

Det är Astropay som är PSP.. Kan det stämma? Och kommer de ge med sig?

Got a reply after 2 days where they said they would check it out.

Then there was silence, and I emailed and asked for an update.

All of a sudden I see that a refund has been started on Revolut but I got no more answers. So just keep writing to them

Fick svar efter 2 dagar där dom sa att dom skulle kolla upp det.

Sedan blev det tyst, och jag mailade och frågade om update.

Helt plötsligt ser jag att en refund är börjad på Revolut men jag fick inga fler svar. Så fortsätt skriv till dom bara

So did you charge back through Revolut or where did you find out that the refund has started?

I was also told that we are checking the case and it's been a week since I sent them messages without success, they don't answer.

how long did your silence last until they made amends?

teitkö siis revolutin kautta takaisinveloituksen vai mistä huomasit hyvitys on aloitettu?

Minulle vastattiin myös tarkistamme tapausta ja on kulunut jo viikko olen laittanut heille viestejä tuloksetta he eivät vastaa.

kauanko sinun hiljaisuus kesti kunnes hyvittivät?

I didn't make a refund on Revolut so it must be amegagame / feasting who paid back themselves.

It took 5 days until I saw that they started to refund.

Write to them again and ask how it's going and what's delaying etc.

Jag gjorde ingen återbetalning på Revolut så det måste vara amegagame / feasting som själv betalat tillbaka.

5 dagar tog det tills jag såg att dom börjat återbetala.

Skriv till dom igen och fråga hur det går och vad det är som dröjer etc.

The casino does not give you such details. And yes, it is payment providers that mix with codes. But the casino is not completely innocent. It is at the casino that you enter all your card details and according to the casino, payments with Mastercard are secure.

Casinot ger dig inga såna detaljer. Och ja det är paymentprovider som mixar med koder. Men casinot är inte helt oskyldiga. Det är ju på casinot du skriver in alla dina kortdetaljer och enligt casinot så är det säkra betalningar med Mastercard.

What do you mean by "moving on" do you mean chargeback through the bank or refund

Vad menar du med att "gå vidare" menar du chargeback genom banken eller refund

No.. it has to be via Astropay.

The casino says it's Astropay, but you don't believe it?

is Astropay impossible?

Nej.. det får ju bli via Astropay.

Casinot menar att det är Astropay, men du tror inte det ?

är Astropay omöjliga?

I have stopped sending emails. It's not worth it.. I've made complaints and see what the bank says.

This weekend I will report a Swedish company that fiddles with codes and helps these companies launder their money. I would have reported it tonight but have been tired after work.

But both FI and the gambling inspectorate have been curious about this and have said REPORT

Jag har slutat skicka mail. Det är inte lönt.. jag har gjort reklamationer och ser vad banken säger.

Nu i helgen ska jag anmäla ett svensk bolag som fifflar med koder och hjälper dessa bolag att tvätta sina pengar. Jag skulle ha anmält det ikväll men har varit trött efter jobbet.

Men båda FI och spelinspektionen har varit nyfikna i detta här och har sagt ANMÄL

Of course they are lying. The casinos does this together with the PSP's

The PSP's take a calculated risk to process these kind of transactions, as they can charge the casino a high fee for the risk they take. The casinos know they need to have these incorrectly coded transactions as that allows a lot more players to deposit, so they find the PSP's that are willing to take the risk for a fee. And the way it looks now, it's not really a risk either.

It's like saying they don't know which PSP's they are using, so how would they get any money from them, how would they be able to investigate deposits gone wrong, refunds and potential charge backs from players.

The PSP's will then use both merchants that are aware of the fraud and merchants that don't know about it and don't approve, and those are the ones most likely doing the refunds to players when contacted.

There are so many scrupulous PSP's, aquiring banks and what not that need the transaction volume to earn money. There can be quite many actors involved.

https://www.creditcards.com/education/how-does-a-credit-card-transaction-work/

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/how-credit-card-transactions-work-960245

Like mentioned before, yes, it's good if you receive any kind of refund, but the big win here is that you hopefully stop giving away your money to these casinos.

See my previous reply.

Yes. But this casino believes that it is one and the same PSP - Astropay..

But on my account statement it says several different payment plastics.. and also other providers? D

Jo. Men detta casino menar att det är en och samma PSP - Astropay..

Men på mitt kontoutdrag står det flera olika betalnings plaster.. och även andra providers? D

Don't think there is much you can do.

Astropay been in the game a long time, they most likely don't care.

If you have none of the mentioned merchant names on your statement, there is nothing you can do. There is really no one really processing refunds anymore.

Best you can do is just stop giving away your hard earned money to these casinos.

But has anyone here tried Astropay?

Men har någon här prova med Astropay?

hello do you have contacts for Fatamp, Topcom, Tsinda limited, Altaprime Limited, Steam sync, Stacs ltd, Cloud energy photoelec. if you can help me thank you

Tsinda = Info@tsindagamers.com

https://www.norrsken.org/contact

kigali@norrsken.org / info@norrsken.org

Norrsken are the ones who rent the premises to them.

Ive emailed both, no answer at all 🙁 would be awesome if more people would help 🙂

norrsken = norrsken foundation. Its some kind of Swedish non-profit started by one of the founders of Klarna. Maybe it could be worth reaching out to them directly and ask why they are renting offices to companies involved with unlicensed gambling/ money laundering.

"NORRSKEN IS AN IMPACT ECOSYSTEM WHERE ENTREPRENEURS CAN FIND EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO MAKE SAVING THE WORLD THEIR BUSINESS"

yep tsinda gamers is clearly saving the world lol

Have any APERATOR and ALPASTRIKE

Har nån APERATOR och ALPASTRIKE

I have been contacted today by two merchants that are refusing refunds and have specifically referred to the forum.

With nearly 85k views the casinos and merchants are starting to get all over this Legitimate refunds are going to become a lot harder