Запитання щодо веб-сайтів азартних ігор із ліцензією Кюрасао, які використовують неправильний код категорії продавця (Сторінка 114)

Hmm Which bank do you have that reported suspected money laundering to the police?

Hmm Mikä pankki sinulla on joka ilmoitti poliisille rahanpesuepäilyn?

So the bank made this criminal suspicion or the payment service provider, sorry, I'm a fool.

and isn't it easy to prove that you are unknowingly involved in money laundering?

How quickly did you receive notification of the money laundering suspicion and the lawsuit? However, doesn't it take its own time?

Eli pankki teki tämän rikosepäilyn vai maksupalveluntarjoaja, sori olen hölmö.

ja eikö tuota ole kuitenkin helppo todistaa, että olet tietämättäsi sekaantunut rahanpesuun.

Miten nopeasti sait ilmoituksen rahapesuepäilystä ja oikeudenkäynnistä? Eikö näissä kuitenkin mene oma aikansa.

It was a bank from Germany, and the reason for the report was a provider that has been mentioned here several times for the purpose of the chargeback. The bank filed a report, and after almost a year I received a letter from the police. I did not give any information to the police. I cannot comment further because of the pending proceedings.

The laws in Germany regarding money laundering are more on the side of the banks. The banks say they know nothing and get away with it, they allegedly report providers with false MCC but they still process payments, after 3 years!

For me, the card payer is the one who is at fault, the change is happening in the background, it is not written anywhere. I only noticed this process when the bank asked me why I was using telephone services in Nigeria

Es war eine Bank aus Deutschland, und der Grund für die Anzeige war ein Anbieter der hier bereits öfter genannt wurde zwecks der Rückbuchung. Die Bank hat Anzeige erstattet, nach knapp einem Jahr gab es Post von der Polizei. Bei der Polizei hab Ich keine Angaben gemacht. Weiter kann ich mich nicht äußern, wegen dem schwebenden verfahren

Die Gesetze in Deutschland zwecks der Geldwäsche sind eher auf Seiten der bank. Die Banken sagen sie wüssten von nichts und kommen durch, sie melden angeblich Anbieter mit falschen MCC jedoch Wickeln diese noch immer Zahlungen ab, nach 3 Jahren!

Für mich ist der Kartenzahler der Geschädigte, die Veränderung geschieht im Hintergrund, nirgendwo steht dies geschrieben. Mir ist dieser Vorgang erst aufgefallen als die Bank gefragt hat, warum ich Telefondienst Leistungen in Nigeria in Anspruch nehme

That’s ridiculous you’re getting penalised for something that isn’t your fault. You know it’s their fault, it’s just proving it. You haven’t laundered any money, just explain to them what’s happened. I’ve stopped gambling as well tbh, in the UK I’m banned on Gamstop which stops me signing up to any casino in the UK. Then randomly one day I found these non Gamstop ones when I was feeling an urge then I got myself into a mess. Lost loads of money, that can’t get given back. There should be no such things as these offshore casinos. Targeting vulnerable people

Name of the supplier who referred you?

Nome del fornitore che ti ha segnalato?

Has anyone got any experience with Payop?

I received a response from Spelinspektionen regarding Wintermads.

They argue that Wintermads cannot operate as a third-party payment provider using non-gambling merchant codes.

They invited me to report it to the Swedish supervisory authority or consumer agency.

Has someone already done it?

Ho ricevuto una risposta da Spelinspektionen in merito a Wintermads.

Sostengono che Wintermads non può operare come fornitore di pagamento di terze parti con l'utilizzo di codici commercianti differenti dal gioco d'azzardo.

Mi hanno invitato a segnalarlo all'autorità di vigilanza o agenzia svedese per i consumatori.

Qualcuno lo ha già fatto?

omg so I recieved the chargeback evidence from WINTERMDSE, they’ve been saying I bought art from them. Yeah right, literally they’re saying I bought lots of different art pieces

How did they come to that conclusion? They seem to be precisely a third party that sells NFTs from Sweden and should therefore be audited.

https://wintermads.com/

Hur kom dom fram till den slutsatsen? Dom verkar ju vara just en tredjepart som säljer NFTs från Sverige och bör därför bli granskade.

https://wintermads.com/

I spoke to them and they said the same thing. They wrote to me in Swedish and I translated it and they told me to contact the authority too

I explained to them that I had been charged for transactions in their name which then ended up at an illegal casino and that this should not have happened due to the block set on my credit card which refuses gambling related payments

Gli ho spiegato che mi sono state addebitate delle transazioni a nome loro che poi sono finite ad un casinò illegale e che questo non sarebbe dovuto succedere per il blocco impostato sulla mia carta di credito che rifiuta pagamenti relativi al gioco d'azzardo

Sorry, can you explain yourself better?

Did they refund you?

Scusa puoi spiegarti meglio?

Ti hanno rimborsato?

Thus, Wintermads is a third party and should be audited by the Swedish Gaming Authority.

They review Quickbit, which is Swedish and sells crypto and cooperates with Casinos, so Wintermads should also go there properly🙂

Instead of crypto they sell digital art (NFTs) but it's more or less the same thing.

Alltså är Wintermads en tredjepart och bör bli granskade av Spelinspektionen.

Dom granskar Quickbit som är svenskt och säljer krypto och sammarbetar med Casinon, så Wintermads bör också åka åka dit ordentligt🙂

Istället för krypto säljer dom digital konst (NFTs) men det är mer elr mindre samma sak.

I had the same issue as you. They refuse to refund they just ignore all emails.

The fact is that even though I have told them that I am reporting them to the competent authorities, they do not lift a finger to refund. At this point I just have to do as Spelinspektionen suggested

Il fatto è che nonostante io abbia fatto presente loro che li sto segnalando alle autorità competenti non muovono un dito per rimborsare. A questo punto non mi resta che fare come suggerito da Spelinspektionen

The construct of banned online casinos is so difficult to understand that it will take forever to fully understand it.

It starts with the founding and ends with the payment processing; the funds go through so many different hands that in the end you don't even know who really owns the money.

That’s why casino operators don’t give a shit about laws

Das Konstrukt der verbotenen Online-Casinos ist so schwer zu durchschauen, dass es ewig dauern wird diese komplett zu durchschauen.

Es geht bei der Gründung los, und endet bei der Zahlungsabwicklung, die Gelder gehen durch so viel verschiedene Hände, dass man am Ende gar nicht weiß wer wirklich im besitz des geldes ist.

Deswegen scheißen die Casino-Betreiber auf Gesetze

Wow this peice of work is actually the owner of my date and grotbooks look at company house it looks like he is also behind helpersm*AP as my bank has gave me details of where every transaction has come from grotbooks and mydate him I am just trying to find helpersm registered in Edinburgh I have ewave and platinum also

Jodd, who do you bank with? What person owns grotobook and my dates also? Do you have contaxt details for ewave and platinum my friend?

DUBROVS, Mihails it's on company house under mydates it's also registered as grotbook he is also registered as cleverprix but with different first name D. O. B same registered on company house also. if you type into either Google or duckduck go. I bank with Santander I am having issues finding ewave and platinum ewave are coming out of Stratsbourg and the platinum London. My bank is asking for all sorts of information documentation, interaction with these companies ect ect it's like hitting head against a brick wall I have sent emails to them no response it looks like I am fighting a losing battle

Yes I hear you. I am the same. Someone found ewave but they never responded as to the contact details. Platinum i may have the email. Do you have a email address? If you want to post it quick maybe we can keep in touch and try work things out together