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Do you think so? These greedy criminals hardly give a chance to win ? and if you win, you have no chance of a payout.

Denk iht genau so ? Diese gierige verbrecher geben kaum eine chance zu gewinnen ? und fals ihr mal doch gewinnt , habt keine chance auf Auszahlung .

never mind, 1red , pledoo, wolfy, loft, I deposited a lot everywhere but never won.

egal,1red , pledoo, wolfy, loft, ich habe überall viel eingezahlt , aber nie gewonnen.

most of us , have a gaming problem but we also have the money , don't let them treat you like dirt.

die meisten von uns , haben ein spiel problem aber wir haben auch das geld , lasst euch nicht wie dreck behandeln.

Guys, I don't feel like it anymore.

Either we do something together or I don't pay any more.

Please, it's not about winning, but also not about losing immediately so that you can deposit again immediately.

I'm getting fed up with this

Leut , ich habe keine lust mehr .

Entweder wir unternehmen zusammen was oder ich zahle nichts mehr ein.

Bitte es geht nicht ums gewinnen , aber auch nicht drum um gleich zu verlieren das man gleich wieder einzahlen kann.

Ich habe es langsam satt

I honestly think you should stop playing.

Once you play with rage, it gets toxic, eating you from the inside slowly... The point is to play responsibly and play for excitement.

Hello Radka,

maybe but it's easy to say, most play uncontrollably.

When online casinos let players gamble with excitement and responsibly,

there aren't that many online casinos.

Here the disease of the players is exploited, partly illegally and unfortunately so many participate,

especially payment providers.

If that were indeed the case, why don't online casinos allow the player to be verified before making the first deposit?

Because they know that the player can hardly check himself, and blah blah verification takes so long

until the player loses everything.

I find verification at the casinos with a Curacao license to be total nonsense. Everything they offer is illegal in Germany, but they still want all our data.

LG

Blerim

Hallo Radka,

mag sein aber es ist leicht gesagt , die meisten spielen unkontrolliert .

Wenn die Onlinecasinos wüsten das Spieler aus Spannung und verantwortungsbewusst spielen,

gebe es nicht so viele Onlinecasinos.

Hier wird die Krankheit der Spieler ausgenutzt , zum teil Illegal und es machen leider so viele mit,

vor allem Zahlungsanbieter .

Wenn das doch tatsächlich so wäre , warum lassen Onlinecasinos nicht erstmal vor der erste Einzahlung den Spieler sich verifizieren lassen ?

Weil die wissen das sich der Spieler kaum kontollieren kann , und bla bla die Verifizierung dauert so lange

bis der Spieler alles verliert .

Ich finde bei den Casinos mit Curacao Lizenz eine Verifizierung als totalen Blödsinn. alles was die Anbieten ist doch in Deutschland Illegal, dann aber noch unsere ganzen Daten haben wollen .

LG

Blerim

I would say it's just so convenient to accuse all casinos in general.

Always play only in DE-licensed casinos, I'd say.

The primary responsibility always starts with the player - in the first place.

Did you know you can ask the casino to verify you before making the deposit? Have you ever tried that?

Every decent casino allows you to do it, it's up to the player. I would not play in a casino unwilling to verify me in advance because such a casino doesn't care much about players' needs.

Sadly, once anyone loses control, this is not an option either I fear... Because compulsive player knows once the account was closed properly due to gambling addiction in the past, there is no chance to pass decent KYC. 🙁

That's what I've learned so far...

Don't get me wrong, each casino is different, and not all are fair and safe. We should do what we can to stay vigilant and learn from our experiences.

Dear Radka,

I have unfortunately lost a lot of money after trying numerous online casinos with Curacao licenses. Very few work reasonably well. Most of them have a terrible payout rate, but why would they change it? One casino closes and another opens immediately.

It is imperative that action is taken against these providers who operate in Germany without a valid license. Especially if you are addicted, you often have no opportunity to make your own decisions.

I plan to file injunctions against the software suppliers because they are making money from their illegal participation in this system.

Best regards

Liebe Radka,

ich habe leider viel Geld verloren, nachdem ich zahlreiche Online-Casinos mit Curacao-Lizenzen ausprobiert habe. Nur sehr wenige funktionieren einigermaßen gut. Bei den meisten ist die Auszahlungsquote miserabel, aber warum sollten sie es ändern? Ein Casino schließt, und ein anderes öffnet sofort wieder.

Es muss unbedingt gegen diese Anbieter vorgegangen werden, die ohne gültige Lizenz in Deutschland operieren. Besonders, wenn man süchtig ist, hat man oft keine Möglichkeit, eigenständig Entscheidungen zu treffen.

Ich plane, Unterlassungsklagen gegen die Softwarelieferanten einzureichen, da sie mit ihrer illegalen Beteiligung an diesem System Geld verdienen.

Liebe Grüße

Hi there!

It's great to see you again after such a long time. Despite the nature of our conversation, I hope you have been well.

I'd like to say I'm convinced it's important indeed to keep this topic open. Safety risks are evident, not just for vulnerable players, and surely some kind of international self-exclusion standard is solely needed to help players evade the temptation to register in available casinos.

The more I get in touch with vulnerable players here on the forum, the more convinced I am when it comes to distinguishing between viewing the license as a symbol of, let's say, trustworthy standards and a license as a grade for being able to self-exclude from the specific casino under a specific license holder.

The way I understand your message, you are also deeply concerned that being excluded from GGL-licensed casinos won't prevent you from receiving the same approach from casinos under other various licenses. am I correct at this point, please?

Perhaps your latest Self-Exclusion Tool, developed in cooperation with many professionals in the industry and supported by the largest collection of casinos we have ever reviewed, might help you too.

Best of luck with your intention to bring this matter up close to the law jurisdiction. Will be here to track your progress.

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Hello Radka,

I don't speak English, but I'll get by.

I think it's great what you've put together there.

Yes, I really suffer a lot from my gambling addiction and I notice that I am also putting a strain on those around me. Although I earn a good salary and have always earned good money my whole life, I have nothing but debts.

What irritates me is that I have been playing for a long time and used to have more winning combinations at casinos with a Maltese license. But for the last two years, this has no longer been the case at casinos with a Curacao license. I think it's terrible what the GGL has done. They have practically driven us into the hands of poorly regulated casinos by making playing at Malta casinos unattractive without blocking the other providers.

Best regards

Hallo Radka,

Ich kann zwar kein Englisch, aber ich werde mich durchkämpfen.

ich finde das toll was du da auf die beine gestellt hast .

Ja, ich leide wirklich sehr stark unter meiner Spielsucht und merke, dass ich damit auch meine Umgebung belaste. Obwohl ich gut verdiene und mein ganzes Leben lang immer gutes Geld verdient habe, habe ich nichts außer Schulden.

Was mich irritiert, ist, dass ich schon lange spiele und früher bei Casinos mit einer maltesischen Lizenz öfter Gewinnkombinationen hatte. Seit zwei Jahren ist das aber bei Casinos mit einer Lizenz aus Curacao nicht mehr der Fall. Ich finde es schlimm, was die GGL gemacht hat. Sie haben uns praktisch in die Hände von schlecht regulierten Casinos getrieben, indem sie das Spielen bei Malta-Casinos unattraktiv gemacht haben, ohne die anderen Anbieter zu sperren.

Liebe Grüße

Dear Blerko,

something like this is really hard to read. I can't even imagine how you must feel. Yet you should be proud of yourself; recognizing the problem is, as I believe, quite a painful process. Being able to speak openly about it isn't surely easy either.

When it comes to locally regulated markets, it was with players coming from the UK when I first realized such diversity makes the pithole between the "official" or, if you prefer, "properly" licensed casinos and the rest "off-shore" companies even broader.

Though I always try to think of that as a side effect, the necessary evil, which quite ironically makes the GGL-licensed casinos more safer, I was always quite convinced reducing this side harm will be close to impossible.

To me, it seems, we got used to presenting some numbers representing the current population of addicted players, yet at the same time you may hear the number is probably much higher and grows truly fast over the time. Is it really caused just by the gambling nature and our own weakness to face the pressure, or are similarly contradictive approaches and massive advertisements, for example, also responsible for the global increase of addicted people?

Well, this topic is so huge, and it seems I'm having a hard time staying within the boundaries.

In any case, I wish you an iron will facing the obstacles!

and you believe that licensed casinos operate better than others? I like your humor

und sie glauben dass lizensierte casinos besser agieren als als andere? Ich mag ihren Humor

Well, it of course depends of the casino. It is surely not guaranteed, let's say, that if a casino operates under the license, it will be better than some other without one.🤷‍♀️

Hi there,

from the perspective of the conversation we had with the previous player, I do. There are already changes being made. I just want to remind you we were mainly discussing the possible general way to self-exclude from international casinos. If you, as a compulsive player, chose an unlicensed casino, you may be pretty sure that once you feel overwhelmed and need to close your account instantly, the casino has no objections to ignoring your requests.

Of course, poorly licensed casinos can do the same, but on the other hand, it may also result in significant fines. But only if the casino is licensed, at least somewhere.

Especially vulnerable players tend to play in scammy casinos because the decent one has already excluded them. That was my point.

I've been reading this forum and the problem with casinos is when there are a few consecutive wins. There are problems with withdrawals.

Even in casinos where you've been playing for two years like me. I've been waiting two days for withdrawals to be processed and nothing. According to Tsars.com, there are problems with the payment system, but I know that none of this is true. Just because I got lucky and had a bigger win, they're already making it difficult for me to withdraw my money. A casino where I've already lost a lot of money.

It's hopeless knowing that you've won and now you're waiting for your money for who knows how long.

When you deposit and win a few hundred euros, the withdrawals are immediate, but when you have a bigger win, the problems start. I have an excellent casino VIP manager but I think this situation is beyond him and it's time to expose the whole situation in forums and open a complaint.

Where can I open an official complaint about this so that the forum can help me resolve this with the casino?

I won the money correctly, so my winnings must be paid out as they always have been.

Estive a ler este forum e o problema dos casinos è quando existe algumas vitorias consecutivas. Os problemas para os levantamentos comecam a existir.

Mesmo em casinos onde jogamos ha dois anos como eu . Estou neste momento ha dois dias a espera que me processem levantamentos e nada. Segundo o casino Tsars.com existem problemas com o sistema de pagamento mas eu sei que nada disso devera corresponder a realidade. Apenas porque tive sorte e tive um ganho mais elevado ja me estao a complicar para eu levantar o meu dinheiro . Um casino onde eu ja perdi muito mas muito dinheiro.

Isto ë desesperante saber que ganhamos e agora estarmos a espera sabe-se la ate quando pelo nosso dinheiro .

Quando se faz depositos e conseguimos ganhar algumas centenas de euros os levantamentos sao imediatos mas quando se conquista uma vitoria maior os problemas comecam . Tenho um gestor vip do casino excelente mas penso que esta situacao o ultrapassa e esta na altura de expor toda esta situacao em foruns e abrir uma reclamacao.

Onde posso abrir uma reclamacao oficial sobre isto para que aqui no forum me possam ajudar a resolver isto com o casino?

Ganhei o dinheiro de forma correcta como tal o meu premio tem de ser pago como sempre foi pago .

Hello ,

Yes, I had the same problem with Chipstars, problems with the payment system. Until I was so angry that I lost everything, that's what they're speculating on!

What I actually find sick is that if we are treated fairly, we will take the money back there even after a payout.

But Tsars is very reputable, it's a pity that even there is no protection against such things.

A good casino would have the option of not letting you wager your money until it is paid out!

Best regards

Hallo ,

Ja bei Chipstars hatte ich auch das Problem, Probleme mit Zahlungsdistem . Bis ich so sauer war das ich alles verspielt habe , darauf spekulieren sie !

Was ich eigentlich krank finde , wenn man uns fair behandelt , bringen wir auch nach eine Auszahlung das Geld wieder dorthin .

Aber Tsars ist sehr seriös, schade das selbst da von sowas nicht geschützt ist .

Ein Gutes casino hätte die Möglichkeit sas du dein Geld nicht mehr einsetzt bis es ausgezahlt ist !

Viele Grüße

Tsars casino is a good casino, yes, but sometimes there are situations like this that make me wonder if the system isn't the same ...

If they don't want me to play until I lose everything ...

But I'm not going to play again until I get everything.

Because if they always pay out so quickly, why is it that just when I've won the most money, the problems with the system happen?

Very strange and convenient. It makes me sad because I really like this casino, that's all.

And as a loyal player they should pay more attention to the way I'm treated because I play basically every day at the casino and I've never had a problem losing there. Gambling is fun. Some days you win, other days you lose 🙂

O casino Tsars è um bom casino sim mas existem por vezes situacoes destas que me deixam a pensar se o sistema nao sera o mesmo ...

Se nao querem que eu jogue ate perder tudo ...

Mas eu nao vou jogar mais nada ate receber tudo .

Porque se costumam pagar sempre muito rapido porque è que logo agora que a minha vitoria foi maior è que os problemas com o sistema acontecem?

Muito estranho e conveniente. Deixa me triste porque eu gosto imenso desse casino , apenas por isso.

E como jogador leal deveriam ter mais atencao a forma como sou tratado porque eu jogo basicamente todos os dias no casino e nunca tive qualquer problema em perder por la . Jogo è uma diversao . Uns dias ganha-se outros dias perde-se 🙂

Hello!

Allow me to congratulate you on winning first.

I spotted the same topic yet less described in the Tsars Thread. So, if you don't mind, I will skip a part of this post because Romi has just explained the complaint possibility there.

Obviously, delayed payment surely spoils the joy of hitting bigger wins. I imagine it is frustrating. For many casinos, bigger wins are subject to investigation; sometimes even the game provider is included, and as a result, the player stands confused because to him it makes little sense.

Therefore, I am interested to know for how long you have been waiting and also how the casino explained the delay to you. Please let me know these details. I'd say it is an important part of this unpleasant situation.

Do you agree, please?

I've been thinking a lot about the responsible principles colliding with delayed payment issues.

One perspective says that delay may occur from time to time and players should also take their responsibility not to lose the money. The delay itself is a very deep topic, since there are still a handful of logical explanations for it. The most common issue I witness comes from the lack of explanation towards waiting players. No wonder that after such circumstances many people tend to see something shady behind the daly.

I'd say the ordinary player still has a chance to endure and avoid losing the balance, but what about hard gamblers? I'm not so convinced it is such a terrible technical miracle to block players balance upon request or present the option in the cashier. I believe that where is the will, there is always a way to be found.

In this moment i have receveid now 3100 euros today .

I have more 6000 euros pending yet last days .

And today i have make more a new withdraw 2000€.

For me the delay of payments is not good . A good casino pay Fastet not with problema and delays . Its my opinion .

But i have talk and talk again i like play in tsars but i dont like this problems for make withdraws