Snatch Casino - загальне обговорення (Сторінка 38)

I really don't know what to say. I saw the same situation; however, in most cases, the casino group has conducted some flag checks, and those resulted in a massive ban across the platforms. But on the other hand, at least the players have such clues. Moreover, you sound like a cool, reasonable person, so I'm hesitant to imitate you as a troublemaker. 🙂.

Have any of your favorite casinos left for your to play there?

I think that casinos should warn players before changing the configuration of the platform, because on the old Snatch site there were coins to exchange for cash and I had collected a little, even if it's a gift from the Casino we earn the coins through deposits, now on the new site there are no more coins, they should warn precisely to make the exchange before. If the player is one of those who collects as many coins as possible worth around 700 reais, this is a huge loss with no prior warning to the players.

Eu acho que os casinos deveriam avisar os jogadores antes de mudar a configuração da plataforma, pois no antigo site do Snatch tinha moedas para troca em dinheiro e eu tinha juntado um pouco, mesmo que seja brinde do Casino ganhamos as moedas através de depósitos, agora no novo site não existe mais as moedas, deveriam avisar justamente para efetuar a troca antes. Se o jogadores é daqueles que juntam o máximo de moedas valendo uns 700 reais, prejuízo enorme sem aviso prévio aos jogadores.

Well said. I'm sorry to see they obviously give the changes less thought than their players. It must feel weird.

It would probably be a good idea to establish an organization that would address these illegalities at online casinos. I understand that the casino guru can't do much about these things, and it mainly handles complaints and does a little "knocking on the casinos' doors".

An example is these complaints about snatch, immerion and possibly iwild casinos, which belong to the same group.

The worst examples, however, are probably casinos that just coldly refuse to pay out players' winnings. For example, Cherry Fiesta Casino, which I once complained about myself.

Why can such casinos continue to operate? Isn't there such a powerful body in the EU, the police, that could intervene in the operations of casinos?

In the USA, the FBI would have probably put an end to the illegal activities of casinos a long time ago.

Is this so new or insignificant? Are the police not interested, or do they know nothing about it?

I think it is not insignificant. It is often a very large sum of money. In addition, a few hundred can be a lot of money for many players. Otherwise, the strange rules of casinos; wagering requirements, locking money in the casino account, strange inquiries about bank accounts, and gross fraud, i.e. non-payment of money.

I assume that the matter is still so new to the police that it has not been addressed, but I am sure that will change.

Olisi varmaan hyvä perustaa jokin järjestö, joka puuttuisi näihin laittomuuksiin nettikasinoilla. Ymmärrän, että kasino guru ei voi tehdä paljonkaan näille asioille, ja se lähinnä käsittelee valituksia, sekä hieman " koputtelee kasinoiden ovelle".

Esimerkkinä juuri nämä valitukset snatch-, immerion sekä mahdollisesti iwild kasinosta, jotka kuuluu samaan konserniin.

Pahimpina esimerkkeinä taitavat kuitenkin olla kasinot, jotka vain kylmästi jättävät maksamatta pelaajien voitot. Esimerkiksi cherry fiesta kasino, josta itsekin tein joskus valituksen.

Miksi tällaiset kasinot voivat jatkaa toimintaansa? Eikö EU: sta löydy niin voimakasta tahoa, poliisia, joka voisi puuttua kasinoiden toimintaan?

USA:ssa FBI varmaan jo olisi aikoja sitten tehnyt lopun kasinoiden väärästä toiminnasta.

Onko asia niin uusi tai merkityksetön? Eikö poliisia kiinnosta, tai eivätkö he tiedä siitä mitään?

Mielestäni asia ei ole merkityksetön. Kyse on usein hyvin isoista rahasummista. Lisäksi muutama satanen voi monelle pelaajalle olla iso raha. Muutenkin kasinoiden oudot säännöt; kierrätysvaatimukset, rahojen lukitseminen kasinoiden tilille, oudot kyselyt pankkitileistä, sekä törkeät petokset eli rahojen maksamatta jättämiset.

Oletan, että asia on vielä poliisille niin uusi, ettei asiaan ole puututtu, mutta olen varma, että asia muuttuu.

It would probably be a good idea to create an organization that addresses these illegalities in online casinos. I understand that the casino guru can't do much about it, and is limited to dealing with complaints and doing a little "casino door knocking".

ANSWER: HERE IN BRAZIL THE GOVERNMENT HAS REGULATED BOOKMAKERS, THERE IS A LIST OF CASINOS LEGALIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT, BEFORE OPENING AN ACCOUNT YOU HAVE TO DO THE VERIFICATION BEFORE DEPOSITING, THE WITHDRAWAL IS IMMEDIATE IN SECONDS GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS.

An example is these complaints about snatch, immerion and possibly iwild casinos, which belong to the same group.

ANSWER: THESE CASINOS IMMERION WHICH BLOCKS THE WITHDRAWAL, SNATCH WHICH CHANGES THE SITE CONFIGURATION AND WE END UP LOSING ALL THE SLOTS HISTORY, GAMES THAT WERE OWED, GAMES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY WON THAT IS LOST, AND I WILD LIKE SNATCH, ARE NOT LEGALIZED IN BRAZIL, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SITE THAT PAYS CORRECTLY, ONE THAT SOMETIMES PAYS SOMETIMES NOT AND ANOTHER IMMERION THAT DOESN'T PAY AT ALL.

The worst examples, however, are probably the casinos that coldly refuse to pay out players' winnings. For example, Cherry Fiesta Casino, which I once complained about myself.

ANSWER: SLOTS ARE DIFFICULT TO WIN JACKPOTS, THERE ARE SLOTS WHERE YOU HAVE TO SPEND 6,000 BRL TO EVEN TRY TO GET THE GAME TO PAY YOU BACK WHAT IT OWES YOU, SO WHEN YOU GO TO A CASINO THAT DOESN'T PAY, IT TAKES AWAY YOUR FUN AND YOUR VICTORY BECOMES FRUSTRATION, I.E. YOU DON'T LOSE TO THE SLOT, YOU LOSE TO THE CASINO.

Why are these casinos allowed to continue operating? Isn't there a powerful body in the EU, the police, that could intervene in casino operations?

ANSWER: AS I TOLD YOU, HERE IN BRAZIL CASINOS ARE REGULATED BY THE GOVERNMENT, AND WE CAN SUE THE CASINO IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, MOST CASINOS IN OTHER COUNTRIES ARE REGULATED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF CYPRUS FOR EXAMPLE, CURAÇAO FOR EXAMPLE, THESE GOVERNMENTS WOULD HAVE TO SUPERVISE THESE CASINOS, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THESE COUNTRIES ARE LIKE A TAX HAVEN FOR CASINOS.

In the US, the FBI would probably have put a stop to illegal casino activities a long time ago.

ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW IF THE FBI WOULD BE ABLE TO GO INTO OTHER COUNTRIES BECAUSE MOST CASINOS ARE BASED IN OTHER COUNTRIES,

Is this so new or insignificant? Are the police not interested or don't they know anything?

ANSWER: AS I SAID, HERE IN BRAZIL YOU CAN GO TO THE POLICE AND REPORT A CASINO CRIME, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROOF THAT THE CASINO IS ILLEGAL AND TAKE LEGAL ACTION.

I don't think it's insignificant. It's usually a very large amount of money. Moreover, a few hundred can be a lot of money for many players.

ANSWER: IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WIN, WHETHER YOU WIN A LITTLE OR A LOT, IT'S YOUR MONEY AND THE CASINOS HAVE TO PAY YOU.

Otherwise, the casinos' strange rules: wagering requirements, blocking money in the casino account, strange queries about bank accounts and serious fraud, i.e. non-payment of money.

ANSWER: WAGERING REQUIREMENTS IS FAIR WHEN PLAYING WITH BONUSES, YOU HAVE TO READ THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CAREFULLY, HERE IN BRAZIL THERE IS A PIX PAYMENT SYSTEM THAT IS LINKED TO YOUR GOVERNMENT ID, YOU ONLY OPEN THE ACCOUNT WITH THAT ID AND THE ID IS THE SAME AS YOUR BANK ID, WE DON'T GET ACCOUNTS WITH DIFFERENT IDS, SO HERE THEY DON'T ASK FOR BANK STATEMENTS, SELFIES WITH DOCUMENTS, SELFIES IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER WITH THE CASINO PAGE IN THE BACKGROUND, ETC.

NON-PAYMENT OF WINNINGS IS THE WORST WAY FOR A CASINO TO ACT TOWARDS A PLAYER.

I imagine that the issue is still so new to the police that it hasn't been addressed, but I'm sure that will change.

ANSWER: THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO INHIBIT FRAUDULENT CASINOS, WHICH ARE NOT LOCATED IN BRAZIL.

- CASINOGURU DOES A GREAT JOB WITH THE TOOLS IT HAS, THEY SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY HELP FROM GOVERNMENTS, HONEST CASINOS, PLAYERS, GAME PROVIDERS THAT MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, THESE GAME PROVIDERS SHOULD HAVE A CHANNEL WHERE YOU REPORT THE CASINO THAT HAS NOT PAID THE WINNINGS OF THE GAME PROVIDER FOR EXAMPLE EVOLUTION, HACKSAW, PRAGMATIC WHERE THIS PLAYER OBTAINED THE WINNINGS AND DID NOT RECEIVE, SO HE COULD RECEIVE A PUNISHMENT OF NOT RELEASING AND LOCKING THE GAMES FOR THE DISHONEST CASINO. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS.

Provavelmente seria uma boa ideia criar uma organização que abordasse essas ilegalidades em cassinos online. Entendo que o guru dos cassinos não pode fazer muito a respeito, e se limita a lidar com reclamações e fazer uma pequena "batida na porta dos cassinos".

RESPOSTA: AQUI NO BRASIL O GOVERNO REGULAMENTOU AS CASAS DE APOSTAS, TEM UMA LISTA DOS CASINOS LEGALIZADOS PELO GOVERNO, ANTES DE ABRIR UMA CONTA TEM QUE FAZER A VERIFICAÇÃO ANTES DE DEPOSITAR, O SAQUE É IMEDIATO EM SEGUNDOS NORMAS DO GOVERNO.

Um exemplo são essas reclamações sobre os cassinos snatch, immerion e possivelmente iwild, que pertencem ao mesmo grupo.

RESPOSTA: ESSES CASINOS IMMERION QUE BLOQUEIA O SAQUE, SNATCH QUE TROCA A CONFIGURAÇÃO DO SITE E ACABAMOS PERDENDO TODO HISTORICO DOS SLOTS , JOGOS QUE ESTAVAM DEVENDO, JOGOS QUE JÁ CONSEGUIMOS GANHOS ISSO É PERDIDO, E O I WILD IGUAL AO SNATCH, NÃO SÃO LEGALIZADOS NO BRASIL, ME PARECE QUE ELES TEM QUE TER UM SITE QUE PAGA CERTO, UM QUE AS VEZES PAGA AS VEZES NÃO E OUTRO IMMERION QUE NÃO PAGA DE JEITO ALGUM.

Os piores exemplos, no entanto, são provavelmente os cassinos que se recusam friamente a pagar os ganhos dos jogadores. Por exemplo, o Cherry Fiesta Casino, do qual eu mesmo reclamei uma vez.

RESPOSTA: SLOT Ė DIFÍCIL DE GANHAR ALGUM JACKPOT, TEM SLOT QUE TEM QUE GASTAR 6.000 BRL PARA TENTAR AO MENOS O JOGO DEVOLVER O QUE ESTAVA DEVENDO, ASSIM QUANDO PEGAMOS UM CASINO QUE NÃO PAGA, ELE TIRA SUA DIVERSÃO E SUA VITORIA VIRA FRUSTAÇÃO, OU SEJA VOCÊ NAO PERDE PARA O SLOT E SIM PARA O CASINO.

Por que esses cassinos podem continuar operando? Não existe um órgão tão poderoso na UE, a polícia, que poderia intervir nas operações dos cassinos?

RESPOSTA: COMO LHE DISSE AQUI NO BRASIL OS CASINOS SAO REGULAMENTADOS PELO GOVERNO, E PODEMOS PROCESSAR O CASINO NO SISTEMA JUDICIÁRIO, A MAIORIA DO CASINOS DE OUTROS PAISES SAO REGULAMENTADOS PELOS GOVERNO DE CHIPRE POR EXEMPLO, CURAÇAU POR EXEMPLO ESSES GOVERNOS QUE TERIAM QUE FISCALIZAR ESSES CASINOS, MAS PARECE QUE ESSES PAÍSES É TIPO UM PARAÍSO FISCAL PARA OS CASINOS.

Nos EUA, o FBI provavelmente já teria acabado com as atividades ilegais dos cassinos há muito tempo.

RESPOSTA: EU NÃO SEI SE O FBI TERIA CONDIÇÕES DE IR EM OUTROS PAISES PORQUE A MAIORIA DIA CASINOS SÃO SEDIADOS EM OUTROS PAISES,

Isso é tão novo ou insignificante? A polícia não está interessada ou não sabe de nada?

RESPOSTA: COMO LHE DISSE AQUI NO BRASIL VOCÊ VAI ATÉ A POLÍCIA INFORMAR O CRIME DE ALGUM CASINO, MAS TERA QUE TER PROVAS CONTRA A ILEGALIDADE DO CASINO E ENTRAR POR VIAS JUDICIAIS.

Acho que não é insignificante. Geralmente é uma quantia muito grande de dinheiro. Além disso, algumas centenas podem ser muito dinheiro para muitos jogadores.

RESPOSTA: NÃO IMPOSTA A QUANTIA DE DINHEIRO, SE VOCÊ GANHOU POUCO OU MUITO O DINHEIRO É SEU E OS CASINOS TEM QUE PAGAR.

Caso contrário, as regras estranhas dos cassinos: requisitos de apostas, bloqueio de dinheiro na conta do cassino, consultas estranhas sobre contas bancárias e fraude grave, ou seja, não pagamento de dinheiro.

RESPOSTA: REQUISITOS SE APOSTAS É JUSTO QUANDO JOGAMOS COM BÔNUS, TEM QUE LER ATENTAMENTE OS TERMOS E CONDIÇÕES, AQUI NO BRASIL TEM UM SISTEMA DE PAGAMENTO PIX QUE ESTÁ VINCULADO AO SEU ID DO GOVERNO, VOCÊ SOMENTE ABRE A CONTA COM ESSE ID E O ID É A MESMA DO SEU BANCO, NÃO CONSEGUIMOS CONTAS COM ID DIFERENTE, ENTÃO AQUI NÃO SE PEDE EXTRATO BANCARIO, SELFIE COM DOCUMENTO, SELFIE EM FRENTE AO COMPUTADOR COM A PÁGINA DO CASINO NO FUNDO, ETC.

O NÃO PAGAMENTO DE GANHOS É A PIOR MANEIRA DE UM CASINO AGIR COM O JOGADOR.

Imagino que o assunto ainda seja tão novo para a polícia que não tenha sido abordado, mas tenho certeza de que isso mudará.

RESPOSTA: EXISTE VÁRIAS MANEIRAS DE INIBIR CASINOS FRAUDULENTOS, QUE NÃO ESTÃO LOCALIZADOS NO BRASIL.

- CASINOGURU FAZ UM GRANDE TRABALHO COM AS FERRAMENTAS QUE TEM, NÃO DEVEM RECEBER NENHUMA AJUDA DOS GOVERNOS, DOS CASINOS HONESTOS, DOS JOGADORES, DOS FORNECEDORES DE JOGOS QUE GANHAM MUITO DINHEIRO, ESSES FORNECEDORES DE JOGOS DEVERIAM TER UM CANAL ONDE VOCE FIZESSE A DENUNCIA DO CASINO QUE NÃO PAGOU OS GANHOS DO PROVEDOR DE JOGOS POR EXEMPLO EVOLUTION, HACKSAW, PRAGMATIC ONDE ESSE JOGADOR OBTEVE OS GANHOS E NÃO RECEBEU, ASSIM PODERIA RECEBER UMA PUNIÇÃO DE NÃO LIBERAR E TRAVAR OS JOGOS PARA O CASINO DESONESTO. TEM VARIAS MANEIRAS.



Watch out! Snatch has lowered its withdrawal limit to $1,000 per day per player. Things are getting crazier and crazier with them.

Vorsicht! Snatch hat das Auszahlungslimit auf 1000 USD pro Tag pro Spieler gesenkt. Es wird immer bekloppter bei denen.

Hello, I see those limits were already applicable in the review too.

Withdrawal limits are $8,000 per month. $8,000, per week, $2,500 per day $1,000.

Thanks for sharing that.

@radtka

Everything does not match, previous payout limit 50000€ per month

2000€ per day, depending on the VIP player status, higher amounts were also possible after contact by the VIP manager.

Now imagine if you land a big hit or a large jackpot, for example at EGT.

In the end the money never reaches the player, we all know that money that can be refunded is usually refunded so that you can continue playing.

I simply call this money-loss because it takes forever for a large sum to actually land in the player's account.

Actually dubious

@radtka

Stimmt doch alles nicht überein, früher Auszahlung Limit 50000€ per Monat

2000€ pro Tag,je nach Status VIP Spieler waren auch höhere Beträge möglich nach dem Kontakt durch den VIP Manager.

Man male sich jetzt mal aus wenn man einen big Hit landet oder einen großen Jackpot z.b bei egt landet.

Das Geld kommt am Ende nie beim Spieler an,wir wissen doch alle, Geld das wieder zurück gebucht werden kann,wird auch allermeistens zurück gebucht zum weiteren spielen.

Ich nenne das ganz einfach verschleppen von Geldern denn es dauert ewig bis eine größere Summe tatsächlich beim Spieler auf dem Konto landet.

Eigentlich unseriös

Lollybet's rate is still $50 a day, and the money still doesn't arrive in your account and they say you've paid.

Ainda está alta o valor o site Lollybet é US$ 50 por dia, e ainda o dinheiro não chega na sua conta e dizem que pagou.

Thaks for mentioning the outdated ones. What actually counts the mosts, I guess ,are the actual applicable limits. Makes sense to be aware of those as well as about the VIP limits because these days it may be a cool indcator of wheter it is reasonable to paly there - just as you said.

We always advise plyers to imagine being lucky enough to strike big win and then copare the amout witht he actual withdrawal limits. 👍

how can I contact them? because this email does not work: s[email protected]

What do you mean by "it doesn't work," please?

You couldn't send an email to this address, or they don't reply to you?

I think the email isn't active anymore or they just ignore every email.

There is something strange about this Snatch casino. Now I couldn't even change my password and I can't log in with the old password. Immerion and snatch casino don't seem like very attractive places to play.

Jotain outoa tässä Snatch-kasinossa on. Nyt ei onnistunut enää edes salasanan vaihtaminen, enkä pääse kirjautumaan sisään vanhalla salasanalla. Immerion- ja snatch-kasino eivät tunnu kovin houkuttelevilta paikoilta pelata..

Same with ybets. I cant log in

Hello, just to have some more information, did you get any sort of undelivered email notification, please? Or do you think they just do not respond? It has been quite complicated for many players, not just in the past, so every detail counts, thanks.

Im trying to complete the kyc verification for the past 3 months but still no result....For every document I sent it takes them 3 weeks to respond...And they keep asking for more and more documents...the last 1 was a screenshot from a crypto transaction to the casino but still no response even though it's been almost a month since I sent it... It's a pity because I really like that casino but I can't play because of that situation...

That's perfectly normal. This casino is only out to make you wait a long time and give up hope for a positive payout. Stay away from SNATCH CASINO; their customer support is a disaster and doesn't respond to any inquiries. I've now deactivated my account there because I'm extremely dissatisfied. I'll also be giving the casino a negative review on all portals so I can have peace of mind and clearly warn others about this provider. STAY AWAY!

Das ist ganz normal. Dieses Casino ist nur darauf aus dass man lange wartet und die Hoffnung auf eine positive Auszahlung aufgibt. Lassen sie bloß die Finger weg vom SNATCH CASINO, der Kundensupport ist eine Katstrophe und geht null auf Nachfragen ein. Ich habe meinen Account dort nun deaktivieren lassen, weil ich mehr als unzufrieden bin. Außerdem werde ich das Casino auf sämtlichen Portalen noch schlecht bewerten damit ich meinen Seelenfrieden damit habe und andere eindeutig vor diesem Anbieter warnen kann. FINGER WEG !

I received it after 18 days with a public complaint and I never played in that casino again.

Eu recebi depois de 18 dias com reclamação pública e nunca mais joguei nesse Casino.