Шахрайство з казино Kinbet? (Сторінка 5)

But, it's the casino's fault if everyone's money is so late. I've never experienced this at other casinos, they followed everything they wrote. But this incident opened my eyes to how small a person is in front of casinos if they want to enforce their rights.

De , a casino hibája ha mindenkinél ennyit késik a pénz. Más casinoknál sosem tapasztaltam ilyet, mindent betartottak amit írtak. De ez az incidens felnyitotta a szememet, hogy milyen kicsi egy ember a casinokkal szemben ha érvényesíteni akarja az igazát.

I would disagree partialy, for example if a casino uses a third party payment provider, which quite a lot of casinos do, it could happen that the delay is there and the casino does not have to answer for it. 

Of course, the other side of the coin is that if you have to wait more than 2 weeks, then it's not very normal and I would rather stay with casinos where it would not be a problem. 

So I understand your side although as I say, sometimes it's not just the casino's fault.😉

It's a scam, don't think about it any longer, and the rest is all lies (experience). Now everyone is free to be fooled, having been warned.

Es una estafa no le den más vueltas y lo demás es todo mentira (experiencia) ahora cada uno es libre dejarse engañar habiendo sido advertido.

How about you also warn players specifically targeting sports betting? I mean, based on your experiences associated with sports betting issues, that would have a far better impact than here at Casino Guru, primarily focused on online casinos. This is simply a suggestion.

The warning applies to both sports betting and casinos: "your field" is the same casino.

La advertencia Sirve tanto para apuestas deportivas como casino "vuestro campo" es el mismo casino.

It's just a suggestion.

Solo es una sugerencia.

Not sure I follow you, but if I may, I would like to mention an important thing, not just for you though. Under such circumstances, it may help passive readers to know that the casino reviews we provide, along with approved user feedback or complaints, are solely focused on casinos. Even though the same company offers the sportsbook too, please do not expect otherwise. The focus is on the rules and how they are practically applied in specific situations.

(That's where you can directly separate casinos from sportsbooks. We are not talking about general rules but about the obvious difference between those two branches.)

Since your complaint about this casino was rejected due to sports betting being involved, I wanted to offer a kind suggestion.

It's great that you want to warn the players. I wanted to help you consider addressing the specific group since it appeared your experience had more to do with sportsbooks. That's all.

Do I understand correctly that you also experienced something unfair with the casino branch too? Can we help you?

Hi, how long did you wait to get your money back?

Ahoj,jak dlouho jste nejdýl čekaly s výplatou peněz?

Try to use the "reply" button because we are unable to know who you asked this question to, actually.

How long did you wait for your winnings to arrive in your account?

Jak dlouho jste čekaly na výhru než dorazila na účet?

Well, you need to use the button for the user you would like to ask the question, actually. 🤷‍♀️

Good morning, after how many days did you receive your first money from the day of withdrawal?

Buongiorno,dopo quanti gg hai ricevuto i tuoi primi soldi dal giorno del prelievo?

Hello, it appears that you, too, have experienced payment delays. Feel free to discuss it, please.

I wrote a post now if you want you can read it.

Ho scritto un post adesso se vuole lo puo' leggere.

Hello, I read your post.

Did you perhaps mean user review instead? Well, feel free to express that to the players here too. I do not see it in your profile yet, for example.

Or is this a complaint? I honestly don't see it approved yet.

They removed the Anjouan license from the bottom of the page and the site can no longer be seen on the Anjouan license verification page. Novaforge LTD, which operates this site (and many other sites) is currently UNLICENSED, ILLEGALLY OPERATING. Do not deposit any money on the site, if you have money, withdraw it as soon as possible. I have 600,000 forints in it but my account has been blocked for 2 months. I sent my documents 1 month ago, but they have not checked them and my account has been unlocked since then. Be very careful with Novaforge, many people may be affected, I recommend the casino guru to take this very seriously now because many people may fall for it.

At the bottom of the Kinbet page:

At the bottom of the page with Anjouan license:

Levettèk az Anjouan licenszt az oldal aljáról ès az Anjouan licensz ellenőrző oldalon se lehet már látni az oldalt. A Novaforge LTD ami üzemelteti ezt az oldalt is (ès mèg rengeteg oldalt) jelenleg LICENSZ NÈLKÜL, ILLEGÁLISAN ÜZEMEL. Ne rakjatok be semennyi pènzt az oldalra, ha bent van pènzetek vegyètek ki minèl előbb. Nekem 600000 forintom van bent de már 2 hónapja zárolva van a fiókom. 1 hónapja elküldtem a dokumentumaimat, de nem azóta nem ellenőriztèk őket ès oldották fel a fiókom. Nagyon óvatosan járjatok el a Novaforge-gal rengeteg ember lehet èrintett ajánlom a kaszinógurunak hogy ezt nagyon vegyèk most komolyan mert rengeteg ember fázhat rá.

Kinbet oldal alján:

Anjouan licensszel rendelkező oldal alján:

Thank you for this information. I will pass it on to our data team to check it out.

Please know that we always take our work seriously and try to inform our users about everything as soon as possible.

Okay, thank you. It's no coincidence that many people have complained about Novaforger, saying that their operations are completely illegal.

Rendben, köszönöm. Nem véletlenül panaszkodtak eddig is sokan a Novaforgera teljesen illegális a működésük.

Well, they have no license right now, as we have checked. We wouldn't call it illegal, though, because many casinos operate without licenses.

The most important thing is to treat their players fairly and pay their winnings.

As I mentioned, I haven't been paid for 2 months now, and my account is blocked even though I sent my documents a long time ago. I've received 0 replies from them since then. By the way, I've been using a lot of similar sites for a long time, but I've never experienced such an aggressive and hostile attitude from a casino towards the player (who they live off of and who should be treated with the utmost respect, because if there were no players, they would go bankrupt). When any problem arose with document verification or my game, I always managed to talk or part ways with the casino, but they paid me what they owed me. It's no coincidence that users constantly complain about Novaforge. After a while, it simply doesn't pay out (until they do, it's very slowly and reluctantly, as many users have pointed out here). By the way, communication between the casino and the player is non-existent here. There is a customer support on the site, but they can only answer very basic questions. If you write to them by email, you never get a meaningful answer. I'm not a lawyer, but I think they don't comply with EU laws, but they can still accept users from the EU. Unfortunately, this company doesn't treat players fairly at all, as I said at the beginning, they send the payouts, then if you win too much, they close your account and don't respond by email. Now they don't even have a license (it's clear why), so they can scam everyone without a problem. You just looked at the site as non-users, but I assure you as a user that being a player of Novaforge is hell, such a company should never provide a service under any circumstances (if it can be called a service, I would rather call it simple fraud). Those who are behind this site should be in prison a long time ago, they have scammed and tricked so many people and there are no consequences.

Ahogy már említettem, engem sem fizetnek ki már 2 hónapja, és zárolva is van a fiókom annak ellenére, hogy a dokumentumaimat már rég elküldtem. 0 választ kaptam tőlük azóta. Egyébként én már régóta használok rengeteg hasonló oldalt, de ilyen aggresszív és ellenséges hozzáállást még kaszinótól nem tapasztaltam a játékossal szemben (akikből élnek és akiket legnagyobb tisztelettel kéne kezelni, mert ha nincs játékos akkor csődbe mennének). Amikor bármilyen probléma felmerült a dokumentumellenőrzéssel vagy a játékommal kapcsolatban akkor mindig megsikerült beszélni vagy kettéváltak útjaink a kaszinóval, de úgy hogy amivel tartzotak felém azt kifizették. Nem véletlen az sem, hogy folyamatosan panaszkodnak a felhasználók a Novaforge-ra. Egy idő után egyszerűen nem fizet ki (amíg kifizetnek addig is nagyon lassan meg kelletlenül, ahogy itt sok felhasználó kiemelte). Egyébként a kaszinó és a játékos közötti kommunikáció az itt nem is létezik. Az oldalon van egy customer support, de ők csak a nagyon alapvető kérdésekre tudnak választ adni. Ha az ember emailben ír nekik akkor meg arra sosem jön válasz érdemi válasz. Nyílván nem vagyok jogász, de valószínűsítem, hogy az EU törvényeknek nem felelnek meg mégis fogadhatnak az EU-ból felhasználókat. Ez a cég sajnos egyáltalán nem bánik igazságosan a játékosokkal a kifizetéseket meg ahogy mondtam az elején még küldik aztán ha túl sokat nyer az ember akkor bezárják a fiókod aztán emailben nem válaszolnak. Mostmár licensszel se rendelkeznek (egyértelmű hogy miért) úgyhogy gond nélkül átverhetnek mindenkit. Ti most megnéztétek mint nem felhasználók az oldalt, de biztosítalak titeket mint felhasználó, hogy a novaforge játékosának lenni pokol, ilyen cégnek soha semmilyen körülmények között nem kéne szolgáltatást biztosítani (már ha lehet ezt szolgáltatásnak nevezni én inkább ezt egyszerű csalásnak nevezném). Akik emögött az oldal mögött állnak már rég börtönben lenne a helyük annyi embert csaptak be és vertek át és nincs következménye.