TrustDice Casino - Гравець повідомляє про закриття рахунку та проблеми з виведенням коштів.

I want to report this fraudulent site.

I registered on this site around May, played with real money, and won $5875.

When I applied for withdrawal, I received a KYC link via email. Was it a link format?

I first submitted my driver's license, but they rejected it.

Many Japanese affiliates they partner with write that the KYC here is fine with a driver's license.

However, in reality, they are invalidating driver's licenses.

Despite pointing out the inaccuracies in the affiliates' articles, none of these articles have been corrected to this day.

The other side insists that only a passport is valid as an ID. Thus, it took me a long time to retrieve my passport from my parents' house.

Around somewhere between July 15 and 17, I resent the link and completed the KYC process.

However, they falsely claimed that the video camera did not capture me.

I can confidently say that I was on camera, and the recording had no issues.

If there were any problems, it would be due to their system flaws.

Subsequently, I received another email request to resubmit the KYC. I don't frequently check my emails in detail.

The links they send expire in a few days.

Even when I try to resubmit the KYC on a day when I am off and feel refreshed, the short link expiration leads me to request another link, creating a ridiculous situation.

They cite their terms and conditions, but the real problem stems from inaccurate information spread by Japanese affiliates claiming that a driver's license is valid for KYC, which TrustDice has neglected to correct.

I showed them screenshots of the articles and questioned the misinformation, but they have ignored it to this day. Affiliates continue to disseminate false information that a driver's license is acceptable.

Let's be clear. TrustDice is engaging in fraudulent activities by not correcting the misinformation regarding the 72-hour KYC and the driver's license validity.

As a fact, despite playing with real money, they confiscated my balance due to the delay in submitting the KYC (since I didn't have my passport at hand).

This company is committing malicious fraud by not showing any intention to correct this.

There's no evidence that can contradict this.

I want my money back, and I believe it is foolish to give such a company high ratings.

If they continue to confiscate my balance, I would like this site to be rated down thoroughly.

© Unfortunately, as we did not receive the required KYC documents within the necessary 72 hours or in a timely manner, your account remains closed.

Although we provided multiple opportunities to submit the necessary documents, we have not received them.

As a result, your account will remain closed.

For details on our related terms, please see below:

3.9 We reserve the right to perform "KYC" (Know Your Customer) verification procedures and, if you fail to complete the KYC verification, do not provide the KYC documents within 72 hours, or we determine that you have provided false or misleading information, your access to your member account may be blocked or closed.

こちらの詐欺サイトを告発したい。

私は5月頃にこちらのサイトへ登録をし現金で遊び5875ドルの勝利金を収めている。

そして出金の申請をしたらKYCがメールで届くリンク形式？でした。

私は最初に運転免許証を提出しましたが、彼らはそれを拒否しました。

彼らが提携を結んでいる多くの日本のアフィリエイターたちは

ここのKYCは運転免許証で問題ないと書いています。

それにも関わらず実際は運転免許証を無効化してきています。

私がアフィリエイターの記事を指摘をしたにもかかわらずそれらの記事は今日まで訂正されてない。

身分証明書としてパスポートのみが有効であると相手側が折れないので、私は実家にあるパスポートを回収するのに非常に時間がかかりました。

そして7/15~17のどこかだと思いますが、再度リンクを送ってもらい、KYCを通しました。

ですが、彼らはビデオカメラが写ってないと虚偽の報告をしています。

私はカメラ越しで自分の姿が写っており、撮影は問題なかったと確信を持って言えます。

問題があるようならば、それは彼ら側のシステムの不具合でしかありません。

その後に再度KYCを提出してくれという連絡がメールで届きますが、私は普段からメールを細かにチェックなどしません。

彼らが送るリンクは数日で期限が切れてしまいます。

仕事明けで元気な時にKYCの再提出をしようとしても短いリンクの期限のために、またリンクを求めるというおかしな状況に陥っています。

彼らは以下の利用規約などを理由にしていますが、そもそもの問題は運転免許証がKYC認証として有効であるという誤情報を日本のアフィリエイターが喧伝していることと、それを放置しているトラストダイスの問題です。

私は記事のスクリーンショットを見せて誤情報に関する問い合わせも入れましたが、彼らはそれを今日まで無視しており、アフィリエイターたちは免許証が認証可能であるという虚偽を流しています。

はっきりと言いましょう。72時間のKYCと運転免許証が有効であるという誤報を訂正してないトラストダイスは詐欺行為を働いています。

事実として私は現金で遊んでいたにも関わらずKYCの提出が遅れたことを理由に残高を没収するという措置をとっています。

(パスポートが手元になかった)

これを訂正する姿勢を見せてないこの企業は悪質な詐欺行為を働いてる。

これを否定できるだけの材料は存在しません。

私のお金を返してほしいし、このような企業に高評価を与えている行為は愚かな判断であると思っています。

残高をこのまま没収するようならばこちらのサイトの評価を徹底的に下げていただきたい。

＞＞残念ながら、必要な 72 時間以内または適切なタイミングで KYC 文書を受け取らなかったため、お客様のアカウントは閉鎖されたままとなります。

必要な書類を提出する機会を複数回提供したにもかかわらず、当社はそれを受け取っていません。

その結果、あなたのアカウントは閉鎖されたままになります。

これに関する弊社の規約については以下をご覧ください。

3.9 当社は「KYC」（顧客確認）検証手続きを実施する権利を有し、お客様が KYC 検証を完了しない場合、72 時間以内に KYC 文書を提供しない場合、またはお客様が虚偽または誤解を招く情報を提供したと当社が判断した場合、お客様のメンバー アカウントへのアクセスがブロックまたは閉鎖される場合があります。

Hello seijin,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with TrustDice Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.

• Could you please advise since when exactly is the verification process ongoing?
• How long after the verification begin did were you able to forward the passport?
• When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?

Please note that it does not matter what an affiliate site claims regarding which documents are valid for verification, the rules are made by the casino not them.

Looking forward to your answer.

Regards,

Nick

> Regardless of what the affiliate site claims about valid documents for verification, please note that the rules are set by the casino, not the affiliate site.

The reason it was confiscated was because I had not submitted KYC within the 72 hour period.

And many affiliates tout that their licenses are valid.

The KYC process will be sent to you via email link when you request a withdrawal.

It is at this point that Japanese users first realize that their license is invalid, and time is wasted.

My passport is at my parents' house, but I work during the week, so I need to go and collect it during a long holiday.

I think this is closely related.

Despite filing a complaint about this issue, the article has still not been corrected.

This allows them to manipulate the terms of use in a malicious manner.

My understanding is that companies are abandoning their responsibilities.

Can you tell me when exactly the verification process started? How long after the verification started did you transfer your passport? When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was the content?

It's been a little over a month since I got my passport back. Here's the process:

05/25 The first email arrives

05/28 I received a notice about my account being locked.

I missed this email and only found out I had received it when I noticed I couldn't access the site.

After that, I inquired about the KYC documents and found out that a driver's license would not be acceptable and that a passport was required.

07/15 I asked the compliance team to provide a link to the KYC process as my passport has been collected.

And I think the next day or so, the KYC process verification was completed.

07/19: I received a notice that the KYC documents had been submitted and that there was an error in the video camera verification.

07/26 I noticed the email from 07/19 and clicked on the link, where I received a message stating that authentication had been completed, so I inquired about the status of reactivating my account.

On the same day, I received a similar information email as the one sent on 07/19, but I did not notice it. Also, since it was the company's busy season, I was late in checking my email.

08/15: The Obon holiday season has begun so I contacted them again to complete the KYC process.

They have ignored this inquiry and communication has completely ceased.

08/23 Inquiries started again

08/23 I received a message on the same day that my account had been closed.

08/28 Inquiries have been ignored since then

I deposit money via e-wallet and play on my desktop PC at home.

The e-wallet account itself has already been verified, so there is no chance of it containing false or misleading information.

Because your identity is indirectly guaranteed.

Also, I am creating this balance without using my bonus.

There is no reason for it to be confiscated, and as mentioned above, there are problems with the company's KYC verification process procedures.

I completed the KYC process and submitted my video camera around 7/16, and no errors occurred at that time.

Also, the link I opened a few days later said that KYC verification had been completed.

There is no evidence that we have intentionally ignored the KYC process, and we ask that you cease any further harassment.

＞アフィリエイト サイトが検証に有効な書類について何を主張しているかは関係なく、ルールはカジノによって定められており、アフィリエイト サイトによって定められているわけではないことに注意してください。

没収された理由が72時間のKYC提出に間に合わなかったからです。

そしてアフィリエイターの多くは免許証が有効であると喧伝しています。

KYCプロセスは出金申請をした際に、メールリンクで届きます。

日本のユーザーはこの時に初めて免許証が無効であると理解し、ここで時間のロスが起きます。

私は実家にパスポートがあり、普段は仕事があり回収に行くのには大型連休である必要があります。

これは密接に関連していると私は思います。

この件の苦情を申し立てたにもかかわらず、今も記事の訂正はされておりません。

これによって彼らは利用規約を悪意を持って運用することが可能です。

企業が果たすべき責任を放棄しているというのが私の認識です。

＞確認プロセスは正確にいつから行われているのか教えていただけますか? 確認開始後どのくらいでパスポートを転送できましたか? 最後にカジノと話をしたのはいつですか? また、内容は何でしたか?

パスポートを手元に回収したのは1か月と少し経過しています。以下に流れを書きます。

05/25　最初のメールが届く

05/28　アカウントロックの案内が届く

このメールを私は見逃しており、サイトへアクセスできないのに気付いてメールが届いてるのを知りました。

その後にKYCの書類を問い合わせなどして、運転免許証では駄目でパスポートが必要であるとこの時に知りました。

07/15　コンプライアンスチームにパスポートを回収したからKYCプロセスのリンクを求める。

そして翌日くらいだと思いますがKYCプロセスの検証は完了させています。

07/19　KYC文書提出完了と、ビデオカメラの検証に不備があるとの案内が届く。

07/26　07/19のメールに気づき、リンク先にアクセスしたところ、認証は完了しているという旨の案内がでたので、アカウントの再開はどうなっているのか問い合わせ。

同日に07/19と同様の案内メールが届いているがこれに気づけず、また会社の繁忙期でもありメール確認が後手になった。

08/15　お盆連休に入ったのでKYCプロセスを完了したく再度問い合わせ。

この問い合わせを彼らは無視しており、連絡が完全に途切れる。

08/23　再度問い合わせを開始

08/23　同日にアカウントを閉鎖したという連絡が来る

08/28　これ以降は問い合わせを無視されている

e-walletを経由してお金を入金しており、プレイも自宅でデスクトップPCで遊んでいる。

e-walletアカウント自体が既に本人確認が済まされてるので、虚偽、誤解を招く情報というのは当たらない。

間接的に身元が保証されているからです。

また、私はボーナス不使用で今回の残高を作っている。

没収される理由などどこにも存在しませんし、前述のようにこの企業のKYC確認プロセスの手順に問題がある。

私は07/16くらいにKYCプロセスを行いビデオカメラの提出も完了しているし、その時点でエラーは起きてない。

また、数日後に開いたリンク上でもKYCは認証が完了しているという旨でした。

KYCプロセスを意図的に無視した事実は存在しませんし、これ以上の嫌がらせはやめていただきたい。

Hello seijin,

Can you please advise what article are you talking about? Was it written by the casino and it is on the casino website? If it's not, the information there is not relevant.

Would it be possible to forward the communication between you and the casino to nikolas.b@casino.guru?

You can find many articles by searching

They are not listed on the casino website.

Most interactions with casinos are via live support, which is difficult if they don't offer it.

I think I took screenshots of everything we exchanged via email.

Could you please confirm?

記事は検索をかければ多数確認できます

それらはカジノのウェブサイトには掲載されてないです

カジノとのやりとはライブサポート経由が多く、そちらに関しては彼らが提供してくれなければ難しいです

メールでのやり取りに関しては全てをスクリーンショットに納めたと思います

確認していただけますか

Dear Seijin,

I hope this message finds you well.

In situations where there has been a significant lapse of time, I believe the casino should still allow for verification if there have been no other issues with the documents you provided. To assist in further evaluating your case, could you kindly forward the documents, as well as any video you sent to the casino, to nikolas.b@casino.guru?

This will enable us to conduct a thorough review and help facilitate a resolution.

Thank you for your cooperation, and I look forward to receiving the information.

Best regards,

Nick

All documents have been submitted

The video will start the camera at the linked location and record in video format instead of taking photos.

I have also sent you the documents I have by email, so please check them.

書類は一通り提出を終えています

ビデオはリンク先のカメラが起動して、写真ではなくビデオ形式での録画がされるということです

持っている書類についてもメールで提出しましたのでご確認ください

Thank you Seijin for all the information provided. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Branislav (branislav.b@casino.guru) who will be assisting you from now on.

Wish you best luck resolving it.

Regards,

Nick

Hello, Seijin,

I am sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Now I would like to invite the casino representative to join this conversation and participate in resolving this complaint.

Dear TrustDice Casino team,

Could you please explain the player's situation in more detail? Why has the user's account been blocked/closed? Have his winnings been confiscated?

Why was his driver's license not enough to verify his identity? Can the casino provide the user with another chance to pass the KYC, with his passport? I dare to claim that he will check his email inbox regularly now, or once you confirm the casino is able and willing to initiate a new KYC process with him.

If we are talking about a breach of other of the casino's Terms and Conditions, besides the 72-hour period mentioned above, feel free to clarify it and send the necessary details and supporting evidence to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru).

Thank you.

Dear Branislav,

I hope you are well.

Thank you for allowing us an opportunity to respond.

We will reply to you via email as soon as possible.

With respect,

The Trustdice.win Team

Dear Branislav,

I have sent you the details to your email address. Please have a look when you can.

With Respect,

The Trustdice Team

I didn't even use the bonus.

Isn't confiscating it despite that akin to fraud?

Since I am the one making this inquiry, I don't know what will happen yet.

There must be many users who are just giving up and not complaining.

If I knew that I needed a passport for the KYC process, I would never play on this site.

This issue is not over once the money is collected.

Trust Dice is promoting the fact that KYC is not required, so affiliates are taking a cut of that.

It is believed that the damage is increasing because people are saying that it is not necessary and that a driver's license is enough.

This site should not be available in Japan.

The passport ownership rate for Japanese people is 17%.

It takes at least two weeks to get a passport.

In addition, it is not possible to appoint an agent when obtaining a passport, and there are very few people who can obtain a passport in the shortest time possible.

Even though the cause is a flaw in the system that Trust Dice has prepared, they are intentionally avoiding flexible responses.

I have completed the video verification multiple times

Did the technical department check to see if there was a problem?

The reason for this is that if I have been notified multiple times that I have completed the authentication, I would suspect a technical problem.

They could have come up with alternative solutions, such as sending the video verification by email.

Aren't they just trying to confiscate the funds by falsely stating that the verification didn't go through?

This creates a gap in time that is then confiscated through arbitrary interpretation of the terms of use.

As long as they are intentionally setting up a scheme to mislead and are not proactively correcting it,

I don't think my perception that this is a scam site is wrong.

私はボーナスを使用したわけでもありません

それにも関わらず没収するということは詐欺と同様ではありませんか？

私が今回のように問い合わせをしているから、まだどうなるかわからない状態ですが

泣き寝入りをしているユーザーは多数いるはずです

KYCプロセスでパスポートが必要だというのが分かっていればこのサイトで遊ぶこともありません

この問題はお金が回収されればそれで終わりという話ではありません

トラストダイスがKYC不要を大々的に宣伝しているから、アフィリエイターがその一部を切り取って

不要、免許証だけでいいと言って被害が拡大している認識です

このサイトは日本で展開をするべきではありません

日本人のパスポート保有率は17%です

パスポートの取得には最短で２週間程度かかります

また、取得の際は代理人などを立てることも不可能で、パスポートを最短で取得できる人など早々いません

トラストダイスが用意したシステムに不備があることが原因にも関わらず柔軟な対応を意図的？に避けています

私は複数回ビデオ認証を完了しています

技術部門の人たちは不具合が起きていたことを確認してるんですかね？

その根拠を強めるのが、複数回私が認証を完了したと連絡を入れているのならば、技術トラブルを疑って

ビデオ認証をメール形式でするなど代替案も出せたはずですよ

彼らは認証が上手く行かなかったと虚偽の発言し、単純に資金の没収をしようとしているだけではないですか？

このようにして空白の時間がおき、それを利用規約の適当な解釈で没収をしてきています

意図的に誤認させるスキームを組んでいて、それを積極的に訂正しない以上

詐欺サイトという私の認識が誤りだとは思えません

The process leading up to their confiscation

They advertise that they don't require KYC, but in reality, the casino deliberately makes a gap in their withdrawal period after you indicate your intention to withdraw at their discretion.

Affiliates are spreading misleading information that says KYC is not required or that a driver's license can be used as KYC.

While the connection between TrustDice and affiliates cannot be proven, numerous sites are spreading inaccurate information.

There are many errors in the articles that appear at the top of the search results.

This is something that would never happen on a regular casino site.

From the user's perspective, if there is a gap in the withdrawal process, it will not be possible to respond immediately.

And they are putting a 72 hour limit on the video verification process.

Even though I tried the passport acquisition → link authentication process multiple times, they made me do it again due to a problem with that process.

There is no alternative offered.

They forget to do the 72 hour authentication one of those times.

Claiming that failure to confirm email address violated the terms of use

Trust Dice, if you think there is an error in my explanation, please feel free to correct it.

If you are talking about a violation of the casino's terms and conditions outside the above mentioned 72-hour period

Branislav is visiting Trust Dice and here is the information I received:

If they falsely claim that you have violated additional terms, that is not acceptable.

>>Unfortunately, as we did not receive your KYC documents within the required 72 hours or in a timely manner, your account will remain closed.

Despite being given multiple opportunities to submit the required documentation, we have not received it.

As a result, your account will remain closed.

Please see below for our terms on this.

3.9 We reserve the right to carry out "KYC" (Know Your Customer) verification procedures and may block or close access to your Member Account if you do not complete the KYC verification, do not provide us with the KYC documents within 72 hours or if we believe that you have provided false or misleading information.

彼らの没収までのプロセス

KYC不要を大々的に宣伝させ、実際にはカジノの裁量で出金の意思表示を示してから意図的に空白期間を開けさせている

アフィリエイターはKYC不要や、運転免許証がKYCになると誤認させる内容を拡散させている

トラストダイスとアフィリエイターの間の結びつきは証明できないが、多数のサイトが不正確な情報を拡散している

検索上位にでている記事には多数誤りがあります

これは通常のカジノサイトでは考えられないことだと思います

ユーザーからすれば出金プロセスに空白期間が開けばすぐには対応できなくなります

そして、彼らはビデオ認証プロセスに７２時間という縛りをつけている

パスポートの取得→リンクの認証プロセスで複数回行ったにも関わらず、そちらの不具合が原因でやり直しをさせてくる

代替案も出すことがありません

彼らはそのうちの１回　７２時間の認証をやり忘れる

メール確認を怠ったことを理由に利用規約違反だと主張する

トラストダイスは私の説明に誤りがあるようでしたら訂正してもらって構いませんよ

＞上記の72時間の期間以外に、カジノの利用規約の違反について話している場合

Branislav氏がトラストダイスに訪ねていますが、私が受け取った案内は以下の通りです

彼らがあなたに追加の規約違反があったという虚偽の主張をされたとしたら、それは看過できないことです

＞＞残念ながら、必要な 72 時間以内または適切なタイミングで KYC 文書を受け取らなかったため、お客様のアカウントは閉鎖されたままとなります。

必要な書類を提出する機会を複数回提供したにもかかわらず、当社はそれを受け取っていません。

その結果、あなたのアカウントは閉鎖されたままになります。

これに関する弊社の規約については以下をご覧ください。

3.9 当社は「KYC」（顧客確認）検証手続きを実施する権利を有し、お客様が KYC 検証を完了しない場合、72 時間以内に KYC 文書を提供しない場合、またはお客様が虚偽または誤解を招く情報を提供したと当社が判断した場合、お客様のメンバー アカウントへのアクセスがブロックまたは閉鎖される場合があります。

This issue is not about some random casino that refuses withdrawals.

Let me explain again.

The deposit is made via e-wallet and identity verification is completed at the e-wallet stage.

I have also submitted my driver's license and my My Number card for the KYC process at the casino.

Despite this, they insisted that they would only accept passports, intentionally creating gaps in their visa status.

I have completed video verification multiple times (it was also displayed as completed online)

Despite this, they insist that it is not completed.

At this point, I have three options: either I am making a false claim, the other party is lying, or there is a technical problem.

From my point of view, [the completion was displayed on the web]

I am just a customer, not an engineer.

Given this situation, it is Trust Dice that should come up with an alternative solution, but they have neglected to do so.

I was forced to go through a lengthy, ridiculously flawed KYC process.

I was late on one of those payments, so they took issue with me and refused to withdraw the money.

Even if you tell them to withdraw money from this review site, if they ignore you, that's the end of it.

What I want is a complete devaluation.

They have unfairly held people's money and refused to withdraw it for several months. That alone makes them a casino site that should not be trusted.

It's been about 50 days since I started posting.

Why are we giving this casino site such a long-term lease?

Isn't this an issue that should call into question the site's qualifications as a rating site?

この問題はそこらの出金拒否するカジノの話ではありません

改めて説明をさせてもらいますが

e-walletを経由して入金をしておりe-walletの段階で身元確認は完了している

カジノ内でのKYCプロセスも私は免許証やマイナンバーカードを提出している、する旨を伝えている

にも関わらず、パスポートでないと認めないと言い張り、空白期間を意図的に作る

ビデオ認証を複数回完了している【ウェブ上でも完了の表示はされていた】

にも関わらず完了してないと言い張っている

この時点で私が虚偽の主張をしているか、相手の虚偽、技術問題の３択です

私の目からは【ウェブ上でも完了の表示はされていた】

私自身はただの顧客で技術者ではありません

このような状態である以上、代替案を出すべきはトラストダイスであるにも関わらずそれを怠っており

馬鹿にしたような不具合のあるKYCプロセスを延々とさせられて

そのうちの１回に遅れたことにより揚げ足を取って出金拒否です

例えこの評価サイトで出金するべきだと言っても彼らが無視をすればそれで終わりです

私が求めているのは徹底的な評価の下落です

人の金を不当に拘束、出金拒否を数か月間している　それだけで信頼されるべきカジノサイトではありません

投稿を開始してから５０日ほど経過しています

何故このカジノサイトに長期間の猶予を与えているのでしょうか？

評価サイトとしての資質が問われるべき問題でもありませんか？

Thank you, TrustDice Casino Team, for your email and additional details.

Dear Seijin,

Can you please explain your delays in providing the requested document/video? Although you mentioned that you had a "busy season" at work, it does not explain the delays of several days after deadlines. To be honest, I do not think that a person/player with almost €6,000 in their casino account would not be able to regularly check their email inbox or would not provide everything requested immediately, or at least as soon as possible. It could indicate a bit different problem, and it is understandable that it raised suspicion on the casino's side.

Please forward me everything you shared with the casino, related to the passport. Feel free to use my email (branislav.b@casino.guru).

"It takes at least two weeks to get a passport."

If you own a passport, as you claimed, I do not understand how this information relates to the case at all. When exactly did the casino ask you for a passport for the first time, please?

Can you send me a link to the casino website section where it clearly states that they accept driver's licenses as identification documents, and nothing else, or that no other ID is needed for the KYC/verification? Also, if affiliates can pass KYC using their driver's licenses, it does not automatically mean that regular players will pass KYC the same way.

Unfortunately, if we are talking about the information from a 3rd party website or an affiliate, I am afraid it is not very relevant. In addition, it is an industry standard that online casinos (in case of any doubts about players' identity or their documents) can request additional documents from players, which includes another ID. Nothing special or uncommon at all.

"The passport ownership rate for Japanese people is 17%."

Where did you get this number from, please? Can you check this information once again since it seems completely incorrect?

Do you have a valid passport or not? If not, can you get a passport made for you and provide the casino with a video of you holding it or would you be able and willing to attend a verification video call with your passport?

This complaint was submitted at the end of August 2024, and the casino requested a passport from you much earlier. It is now more than a month and a half. Even if you did not have a passport, you could have got a new one in the meantime. So, where is the problem with providing it, please?

"Branislav is visiting Trust Dice and here is the information I received:

If they falsely claim that you have violated additional terms, that is not acceptable."

I am not sure about the correctness of the translation, but - When/where exactly did I state this?