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that's what i said, you can't go after them for something you do on your own without being forced

In my opinion, to make the lives of these "giants" miserable, we should create a YouTube channel that shows how algorithms are manipulated. For this, we would also need a tool that calculates the RTP/RNG of combination variants, and we would also need a retired programmer from one of the providers who ended cooperation due to reasons of conscience that no longer allowed him to participate in this practice. So the conclusion is simple - unreal. Haha ;D True. Let's stop playing, let's focus on our passions... And when we feel tempted... then demo mode and life becomes more beautiful. 👐

Your thinking is very good, I don't know if it can become real. What I do know is that we are lost among dozens of providers and we don't know who to play and how. There used to be five to ten providers, now there are ten times as many, now you don't earn easily, things used to be simpler

I'm on my 35th day without depositing any money and feel better for it as I'm learning Spainish instead. Last week I wanted to test other online casinos mostly USA based who offer free chips and spins on join up the slot play wasn't just bad it was rotten to the core!! Small wins regular but your balance going down all the time, and bonuses that pay NOTHING!! It's hard to break the cycle as I have tried to give up before. Now certain that every casino and provider is corrupt I will never ever waste another €1 on that S**T. It's not helped by consistent radio ads and emails and texts by gamblingcompanies but give it a break for a month find something else to do and you will break the cycle of misery.

I am determined to stay away permanently, I tried everything, I gave chances to all the providers, no one treated me right, I might have had some good times but the last year the wear and tear was incalculable...so that's it.

And today more free spins: 4 times for 2 euros Christmas big bass and 2 times for 2 euros Big Bass Bonanza 1200 euros total cost for the free spins. Total profit less than 200 euros. Pure rip off! Several times again to 1 euro, 1.20 and 1.50 as well as an average of 30 euros. I wonder every day whether this is actually legal. I have written daily experience here, over 200 free spins in 3-4 days, that's easily 25,000 euros in the cost of the free spins. And I didn't win 10 percent playing. The whole thing at Cashwin.com on Pragmatic Play Bonanza games.

Und heute mal weiter Freispiele : 4 auf 2 Euro Christmas big bass und 2 mal auf 2 Euro Big Bass Bonanza 1200 euro ingesamt kosten für die Freispiele . Gesamtgewinn keine 200 Euro. Abzocke pur ! Mehrmals wieder auf 1 Euro , 1,20 und 1,50 ebenso durchschnittlich 30 Euro. Ich wunder mich täglich ob das tatsächlich sowas legal ist . Ich habe hier tägliche Erfahrung geschrieben , über 200 Freispiele in 3 4 Tage , das sind locker mal 25000 Euro Kosten der Freispiele. Und ich habe keine 10 Prozent bei dem Spielen gewonnen. Das ganze bei Cashwin.com auf Pragmatic Play Bonanza Spiele.

In the last 6 months the providers are real executors, in the 11 years I've been playing I've never encountered such a big theft... what they do is to constantly collect money like there's no tomorrow. The situation is hopeless, even the traditional good providers are not giving anything. They give me the impression that they don't care if they kick all the players out of online gambling, as long as they take their money 4 times more than they did 1 year ago.

Today my last post here and on online casino cashwin.com or all others. Against pragmatic play, however, this time I play higher than usual. For a stake of 3 euros, Chrstimas Bonanza gets 4 free spins, a maximum of 81 euros. Think about 300 euros for the free spins. Several times for 2 euros, the maximum profit was 210 euros and the one-time win was an average of 40 euros. The great thing was Halloween, because I wasn't in the mood anymore, so I bought the free spins twice for 180 euros, both for 36 euros. Then I got the free spins about 8 times on 1.50 without buying. Max profit around 30 euros. I still had 400 euros left and bought twice for 200. A total profit of 52 euros. So I looked at the screenshots from Friday to today. To date I have paid out 1700 euros, actually with free spins worth easily 30000 euros. My maximum win was 360 euros for 0.90 cents. Incredible . For me it is the death of the online casino. Take care .

Heute mein letzter Beitrag hier und auf online Casino cashwin.com oder alle anderen. Wider pragmatic play spiele aber diesmal höher als sonst. Auf 3 Euro Einsatz Chrstimas Bonanza 4 mal bekommen doe Freispiele, max Gewim 81 Euro . Überlegt euch bei 300 Ķosten für die Freisple. Mehrmals auf 2 Euro , max Gewinn war 210 Euro und das einmalig sonst gabs durchschnittlich 40 Euro. Der Hammer war Halloween , da ich kein Bock mehr hatte , habe für 180 Euro 2 mal die Freispiele gekauft gabs beides mal 36 Euro. Dann habe ich ca 8 mal auf 1,50 die Freispiele bekommen ohne zu kaufen. Max Gewinn um die 30 Euro. Hatte noch 400 Euro über und habe 2 mal für 200 gekauft. Zusammen 52 Euro Gewinn. Also habe mir die Screenshots von Freitag bis heute angeschaut. Habe bis heute 1700 Euro ausgezahlt tatsächlich bei Freispielen in wert von locker 30000 Euro. Mein Höchstgewinn war 360 Euro auf 0,90 Cent. Unglaublich . Für mich ist der Tod der online casino. Machs gut .

ATTENTION: WHAT THE CASINOS WOULD NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW

The great myth of rtp, a good fairy tale for the young

players but not for long-term casino players.

Player for almost 15 years in online and land-based casinos

casino, I will tell you my experience in all these years and what I really believe,

The providers do not play any role in this whole setup

a world of casinos that normally have to be intervened by the prosecutor and closed

all these casinos that destroy people every day and promise riches,

I believe that the providers carry out what they are instructed to do

the online casinos through the automatic server system that are connected

between them in real time, e.g. if a casino wants only those to win

new players be sure that all new players will win, Also the

every long-term player has his own rtp depending on what kind of player he is,

each player writes klm/miles like a car, everything is recorded

in each company and according to the amounts he plays and spins he gets them too

similar winnings, and again as every casino has planned to give winnings

depending on his playfulness and the money he has lost, it is

programmed in such a way that no player has any profit from that

has filed so far

They have so much profit every day that they can give you one

great amount as a new player and may you never play again in your life, them

it is enough that you made a deposit on their site, but the statistics say that when you

give such a big win, the only sure thing is that you will play again for

to look for the same victory again and again and in the end you will

you find yourself losing your house by filing every day hoping to

win a single victory,

There are many casinos that when you make a new account with it

first deposit, they make you a profit and 2000 euros on any benefit you play

whatever game you play you just win, there were 3 specific ones

companies here in my country where I have made the same winnings of 2000 euros with 7

different accounts from friends who, quite by chance, had the same prize

at the end, redeeming the bonus, if you played to win extra money

you just lost your money with zero rtp, it was like someone closed a

virtual switch and whatever provider you play whatever game you play

you lost and lost until your balance was zero, after every deposit and

did you have the worst rtp

Also if you took this 2000 euros and continued to play at

same casino no matter how much money you deposit again and again you only win and lose and lose

you lost

My friends, let's be realistic, there is no such thing as luck

casino, no one can determine the luck of any casino so that's it

lost money, it's a business and it doesn't give money to anyone, it just wants the

your money and nothing else, you play inside their headquarters when they do anything to you

they want, you can't beat them, you'll get them 200 300 500 1000

2000 euros and believe me you won't be able to win like this again until

lose your home too, it was planned by man and not by God so that

we can't understand how the slots work, someone who plays in

period of time every day will absolutely agree with what I mentioned,

Whoever wants to listen to me and be saved from this illness

who destroys people every day, let him do it from today already by

stop gambling completely, for the rest of the players who don't believe please

place your bets

ΠΡΟΣΟΧΗ : ΑΥΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΗΘΕΛΑΝ ΝΑ ΜΑΘΕΤΕ ΤΑ CASINO

Ο μεγαλος μυθος του rtp , ενα καλο παραμυθι για τους νεους

παικτες αλλα οχι για τους μακροχρονιους παικτες των καζινο.

Παικτης σχεδον 15 χρονια στα online casino και στα επιγεια

καζινο , θα σας πω την εμπειρια μου σε ολα αυτα τα χρονια και τι πραγματικα πιστευω,

Οι providers δεν παιζουν κανενα ρολο σε ολο αυτο το στημενο

κοσμο των καζινο που κανονικα πρεπει να παρεμβει εισαγγελεας και να κλεισουν

ολα αυτα τα casino που καταστρεφουν κοσμο καθημερινα και υποσχονται πλουτο ,

Πιστευω οτι οι παροχοι πραγματοποιουνε οτι εντολη παιρνουν απο

τα online καζινο μεσω του αυτοματου συστηματος server που ειναι συνδεμενα

μεταξυ τους σε πραγματικο χρονο , π.χ. αν ενα καζινο θελει να κερδισουν μονο οι

νεοι παικτες να ειστε σιγουροι οτι θα κερδισουν ολοι οι νεοι παικτες ,Επισης ο

καθε μακροχρονιος παικτης εχει το δικο του rtp αναλογα με το τι παικτης ειναι ,

ο καθε παικτης γραφει klm/miles οπως ενα αυτοκινητο , ολα ειναι καταγεγραμενα

σε καθε εταιρια και αναλογα με τα ποσα που παιζει και τζιραρει παιρνει και τις

αναλογες νικες ,και παλι οπως εχει προγραμματισει το καθε καζινο να δινει νικες

αναλογα με τη παικτικοτητα του και τα χρηματα που εχει χασει , ειναι

προγραμματισμενα ετσι ωστε κανενας παικτης να μην εχει παραπανω κερδη απο οτι

εχει καταθεσει μεχρι τωρα

Εχουν τοσα πολλα κερδη καθημερινα που μπορουν να σε δωσουν ενα

μεγαλο ποσο σαν νεος παικτης και ας μην ξαναπαιξεις ποτε στην ζωη σου, τους

αρκει που εκανες καταθεση στο site τους , αλλα η στατιστικη λεει οτι οταν σε

δωσουν μια τετοια μεγαλη νικη το μονο σιγουρο ειναι οτι θα θα ξαναπαιξεις για

να αναζητησεις μια ακομα ιδια τετοια νικη ξανα και ξανα και στο τελος θα

βρεθεις να χανεις και το σπιτι σου με το να καταθετεις καθε μερα ελπιζωντας να

κερδισεις μια ιδια νικη ,

Υπαρχουν πολλα καζινο που οταν κανεις νεο λογαριασμο με την

πρωτη καταθεση, σου κανουν κερδη και 2000 ευρω σε οποιο παροχο και να παιξεις

σε οποιο παιχνιδι και να παιξεις απλα κερδιζεις, υπηρχαν 3 συγκεκριμενες

εταιριες εδω στην χωρα μου που εχω κανει τις ιδιες νικες των 2000 ευρω με 7

διαφορετικους λογαριασμους απο φιλους που ολως τυχαιως ειχαμε το ιδιο επαθλο

στο τελος τζιραρωντας το μπονους , αν επαιζες για να κερδισεις παραπανω λεφτα

απλα εχανες τα χρηματα σου με μηδενικο rtp , ηταν σαν καποιος να εκλεινε ενα

εικονικο διακοπτη και οτι παροχο και να επαιζες , οποιο παιχνιδι και να επαιζες

εχανες και εχανες μεχρι να μηδενισει το υπολοιπο σου , μετα οτι καταθεση και να

εκανες ειχες το χειροτερο rtp

Επισης αν επαιρνες αυτα τα 2000ευρω και συνεχιζες να παιζεις στο

ιδιο καζινο οσα λεφτα και να καταθετες ξανα και ξανα μονο εχανες και εχανες και

εχανες

Φιλοι μου ας ειμαστε ρεαλιστες, δεν υπαρχει τυχη σε κανενα

καζινο , κανενας δεν μπορει να καθορισει την τυχη καποιου καζινου ωστε αυτο να

χασει λεφτα, ειναι επιχειρηση και δεν χαριζει σε κανεναν λεφτα ,θελει μονο τα

λεφτα σου και τιποτα αλλο, παιζετε μεσα στην εδρα τους οποτε σας κανουν οτι

θελουν, δεν μπορειτε να τους κερδισετε , θα τους παρετε 200 300 500 1000

2000ευρω και πιστεψτε με δεν θα μπορειτε να ξανακανετε τετοια νικη μεχρι να

χασετε και το σπιτι σας , τα εχει προγραματισει ανθρωπος και οχι ο θεος ωστε να

μην μπορουμε να καταλαβαινουμε πως δουλευουνε τα slots, καποιος που παιζει σε

βαθος χρονου καθημερινα θα συμφωνησει απολυτα με αυτα που ανεφερα ,

Οποιος θελει να με ακουσει και να σωθει απο αυτην την αρρωστια

που καταστρεφει ανθρωπους καθημερινα ας το πραξει απο σημερα κιολας με το να

κοψει εντελως το τζογο, για τους υπολοιπους παικτες που δεν πιστευουνε Παρακαλω

βαλτε τα στοιχηματα σας

It's all a scam to take your money. RTP and RNG a myth. It's all controlled and corrupt providers and casinos. My last play €75 deposit 50x€1 only 3 wins above stake first €50 60 spins in total. Second €25 ×.50 no wins above stake total spins 31. Don't be foolish and be tempted by advertising and fake promises = YOU WILL GET ROBBED!!🤬

I completely agree, I should also add that no other casino gives you a profit after a big win, that is, try to go to 3-4 casinos different from the one that gave you the big win, you will see that you will get the third longest, this it means that the casinos or the providers among them have an image of your winnings wherever you win and behave accordingly. Many times I have taken a big win from X provider and then all the other providers that I switch to play have rtp -99%, it means that Giannis i.e. me won... treat him accordingly , it is a very well set up company Taso friend as you read which I also say, what's up? What you said about the bet size is also very correct, for example I am a €0.60 player, if I try to play with €4 bets I will simply lose all the money and if I try to deposit I will play with the same I bet I'll have the same luck again, and that's because I haven't fed the equivalent money for a 4-euro bet on the beasts... in case I lose €10,000 with this bet, then maybe I'll start winning something... it's like They tell you... where are you going, you fool, while you are a player of €0.60 to win by pressing 4 euros. In short, we are lost from everything.

Συμφωνω απόλυτα, να προσθεσω ακόμη οτι κανενα αλλο καζινο δεν σου δινει κερδος μετα απο μια μεγάλη νικη, δοκιμασε δηλαδη να πας σε 3-4 καζινο διαφορετικα απο αυτο που σου εδωσε την μεγαλη νικη, θα δεις οτι θα παρεις το τριτο το μακρυτερο, αυτο σημαινει οτι τα καζινο ή οι πάροχοι μεταξυ τους εχουν εικονα κερδων σου οπου και να κερδισεις και συμπεριφερονται ανάλογα. Πολλες φορες εχω παρει μεγαλη νικη απο το Χ παροχο και μετα ολοι οι αλλοι παροχοι που μεταπιδω να παιξω εχουν rtp -99%, πεφτει σημα οτι ο Γιαννης δλδ εγω κερδισε... συμπεριφερθειτε του αναλογα, ειναι μια πολυ καλοστημενη κομπινα φιλε Τασο οπως διαβασες που λεω και εγω ποιο πανω. Πολυ σωστο και αυτο που ειπες για το μεγεθος πονταρισματος, για παραδειγμα εγω ειμαι ενας παικτης των 0,60€ το πατημα, αν δοκιμασω να παιξω με πατηματα των 4€ απλα θα χασω ολα τα χρηματα και αν δοκιμασω να καταθεσω να παιξω με το ιδιο στοιχημα παλι την ιδια τυχη θα εχω, και αυτο γιατι δεν εχω ταϊσει με το αναλογο χρημα για χασουρα των 4 ευρω τα θηρια... σε περιπτωση που χασω 10000€ με αυτο το πονταρισμα μετα ισως αρχισω να κερδιζω τιποτα... ειναι σαν να σου λενε... που πας ρε πονηρε ενω εισαι παικτης των 0,60€ να κερδισεις με πατημα των 4 ευρω. Με λιγα λογια ειμαστε χαμενοι απο παντου.

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Επειδη βλπεπω οτι δεν μπορω να σου στειλω pm απο εδω και θεωρω ποιοτικες τις τοποθετησεις σου αν θες στειλε εδω να επικοινωνουμε, 400r400r400r@gmail.com νομιζω επιτρεπετε να δωσουμε mail απο εδω

Guys, you should find yourselves a new hobby; this is very sad.

And, amazingly, I have never seen a piece of proof of these juicy secrets. Yet hundreds of players know exactly how things work in almost every casino.

I'm glad you feel good having such a decent chit-chat here, though. 💚

Everything we write is based on years of experience, someone else may have a different opinion, we respect that. We were playing, so it means that we found the game fun, no one respected that because they didn't let us lose with dignity, but they cursed us. Let me say again that what I say is based on dozens of verifications from years of experience.

Radka we are now former online casino players trying to warn others as well as reinforcing our beliefs in regard to how these shady casinos and providers operate. I admit I had an addiction which is now out of my system because there has been a marked change in the way they operate since lock down I wouldn't say it's impossible to win now but it's close. This is the last time I come on here anyway. Bye Bye 👽

hello radka

Shouldn't discussions and experiences be exchanged in a forum? If you play these slots often, tens of thousands of spins and for years, then you know how these slots worked before.

hallo radka

sollte in einem forum nicht diskutiert und erfahrungen ausgetauscht werden? wenn man oft diese slots spielt, zig tausende spins und das jahre lang, dann weiß man wie diese slots vorher gelaufen sind.

Since May last year I have taken a screenshot after every free spin on Big Bass and Christmas Big Bass, all on Cashwin.com.

To date, a total of exactly 1231 free spins from a stake of 1 euro to a stake of 5 euros. A total of at least 100,000 euros in costs for the bonus purchase.

My maximum win is 800 at Christmas on 2 euros, where I have reached 10 rounds.

A total of 6 times reached times 10 in 1231 free spins. I calculated an average profit of around 28 euros today. The golden fish doesn't even get caught in ATTENTION 1231 free spins.

I converted all the screenshots into a video of 7:31 minutes. I'll add the link for it here in the hope that you'll post everywhere with the #cashwinbetrug#pragmsticplaybetrug so that as many people as possible can see it

Seit Mai leztes Jahr habe ich nach jeden Freispiel bei Big Bass und Christmas Big Bass ein Screenshot gemacht, alles bei Cashwin.com.

Insgesamt bis heute ganz genau 1231 Freispiele ab 1 Euro Einsatz bis 5 Euro Einsatz. Insgesamt mindestens 100.000 Euro Kosten beim Bonuskauf.

Mein Höchstgewinn ist 800 bei Christmas auf 2 Euro wo ich bis mal 10 Runde angekommen bin.

Insgesamt 6 mal bei mal 10 angekommen in 1231 Freispiele. Ein durchschnittlichen Gewinn ist bei ca 28 Euro heute von mir ausgerechneten worden. Der goldene Fisch nicht einmal erwischt in ACHTUNG 1231 Freispiele.

Die ganze Screenshots habe ich in einen video vom 7:31 Minuten umgewandelt. Den link dafür füge ich hier die Tage ein mit der Hoffnung dass ihr überall mit dem #cashwinbetrug#pragmsticplaybetrug postet um so viele wie möglich das sehen können

I have never won a maximum win in a Nolimit slot, even though I have played some of its games for more than 5 years consecutively, such as the hoarder, the rave, the crypt. Max win in a pragmatic game not even in my dream, not even half max win in them.

I understand what you're saying, but I personally think that in such cases it's probably best to stop playing and find a new hobby. We know how it goes in casinos and of course everyone can express their opinion on the subject within the framework of good manners, but it won't bring the money back anyway. 

As far as I have observed, it often happens that even though players write that they do not like a casino, a game or whatever, they still end up going back there to see the same thing more than once. 

To me, that is the definition of insanity. 🙂

Of course I mean it in a good way.

Of course, sometimes it's nice to back up your claim with something tangible, because you surely understand that many players are shouting into the dark. That's why in such debates it's good to have something concrete to support yourself.

Of course, I don't doubt that you also have a lot of experience and therefore you expressed your opinion mainly on the basis of them. 

For me, as I mentioned in my previous post, it would be wisest to stop playing if a player feels that he is not doing well. 

That's all.