Viggoslots Casino - загальне обговорення (Сторінка 2)

So we finally found the reason!

The German version of the mobile application is outdated, saying "copyright - Viggoslots 2018" 🙂

The license has changed and it's the Antillephone N.V.now.

Thank you for being so responsive and helpful though much appreciated.

I have now switched my tablet to the desktop website, the logo is.

The link goes to Antillephone with the license jaz /8048

Please look in the text it says jaz / 1668 here too

Ich habe jetzt mein tablet aud Desktop Webseite umgestellt, das Logo ist.

Der Link geht nach Antillephone mit der Lizenz jaz /8048

Schau bitte im Text steht auch hier jaz / 1668

I tried to reach the chat several times today, no answer

Ich habe heute mehrfach versucht den Chat zu erreichen,keine Antwort

Hello,

that is probably another non-actual version. I tried English several times and the text was accurate.

The chat is not available 24/7, as far as we know.

Back to the point, I dare to say that the actual licensing provider is Antillephone N.V., would be nice if their support or live chat care to confirm. 🙂

I also ask you to update Kristina in your complaint, your gaming history is needed, thank you.

Yes, I'm in the process of copying the spiral history page by page, that's over 200 pages and in between you get kicked out.

Why do I have all old versions of the website????

Ja, ich bin dabei den Spirleverlauf Seite für Seite zu kopieren, das sind über 200 Seiten und zwischendurch fliegt man raus.

Wieso habe ich alles alte Versionen der Webseite????

The link turned up first when I searched 1668/JAZ . ( Brave Browser using Brave search). The site lists Curaco licence numbers and the casinos that use it. Viggoslots is not listed under 1668/JAZ but scrolling down I found it under licence number 8048/JAZ. It doesn't matter in the end because according to the site the master license holder supervises the casinos or compensates players if they are scammed

https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/

If you scroll down to 'a bit of history ' it says there was a data leak and there has been some changes regarding name and license.

https://goodluckmate.com/guide/company/mountberg

This won't help you getting your money back @simplyme, it just shows that the licence situation at Viggoslots and Mountberg is more than clear. Probably done so on purpose. I am sorry about this but as you said yourself, you probably won't get your money back.

this criminal organization belongs in jail, if I'm already reading anti-money laundering etc. They wash themselves by simply renaming...new name, new scam. What is the Curaçao license for??? They don't care, collect license fees and that's it??? Just scammers on the go or what, everyone makes their own rules, sorry I can't figure that out. It's about time that a higher authority intervened, that's all very clearly financial fraud in the worst way, and the best thing about it, the providers know it, so they are also involved in the fraud, a whole network of corrupt hypocrites??? ?

diese kriminelle Organisation gehört in den Knast, wenn ich schon lese Antigeldwäsche etc. Die waschen sich selber indem Sie einfach umbenennen...neuer Name, neuer Betrug. Wofür die Curacao Lizenz??? Die kümmern sich nicht, kassieren Lizenzgebühr und das wars??? Nur Betrüger unterwegs oder was, jeder macht seine eigenen Regeln, sorry darauf komme ich nicht klar. Es wird mal Zeit das eine höhere Instanz da einschreitet, das ist alles ganz klipp und klar Finanzbetrug auf übelste Art und Weise,und das Beste daran, die Provider wissen das, also auch Beteiligung am Betrug, ein ganzes Netzwerk von korrupten Scheinheiligen????

Gameplay is on the way to Kristina

Spieleverlauf ist an Kristina unterwegs

Chat start 19.13 and no answer until 19.29, top left The corner shows the time.

Chat Beginn 19.13 und bis 19.29 keine Antwort, oben links Der Ecke steht sie Uhrzeit.

Why a license? Because when players read the casino has a license, players think the casino is legal. Nobody asks what the conditions have to be fulfilled to get the license. Just like people think a product is good because it has a lot of 5 star reviews. Nobody checks whether the reviews have been bought.

What kind of authority is supposed to control that? The International Monetary Fund? Countries might be able to stop access, but then the outcry is great again. deprivation of liberty, censorship and such. The only thing you can do is warn others on forums like this

Warum eine Lizenz? Weil wenn Spieler lesen das Casino hat eine Lizenz denkt Spieler das Casino ist legal. Was die Bedingungen erfüllt werden müssen um die Lizenz zu bekommen fragt ja keiner. Genauso wie Leute denken ein Produkt ist gut weil es super viele 5 Star reviews hat. Ob die Reviews gekauft sind kontrolliert niemand.

Was für eine Instanz soll das denn kontrollieren? Der internationale Währungsfond? Länder könnten vielleicht den Zugang stoppen aber dann ist das Geschrei auch wieder groß. Freiheitsberaubung, Zensur und so. Das einzige was man machen kann ist in Foren wie diesen andere zu warnen

True, but.....this is about money, a lot of money, not a product that is being advertised. Who knows what's behind it, just greed??? I'm not the only victim, as you read everywhere. That's too easy for me, there's a lot more to it.... this is happening so obviously here, just ridiculous for the authorities to accept everything so tacitly.... me think of corrupt employees of the licensing authorities, who actually don't exist at all....

Stimmt, aber.....hier geht's um Geld um viel Geld, nicht um ein Produkt was beworben wird. Wer weiss denn was dahinter steckt, einfach nur Habgier??? Ich bin nicht das einzige Opfer, wie man überall liest.Das ist mir zu einfach, da steckt viel mehr dahinter....das passiert hier so offensichtlich, einfach nur lächerlich was die Behörden angeht, so stillschweigend alles hinzunehmen....ich denke da an korrupte Mitarbeiter der Lizenzbehörden, die ja eigentlich gar nicht existieren....

Thank you very much!

Hello,

Let's say that it's super cheap to buy a Curacao license compared to other jurisdictions.

Yesterday, I went through this website and must admit that it explains a lot.

https://bit.ly/3REz4nI

In general, opinions about those sub-licenses vary a lot and some people are sure that holding a Curacao license has no positive effect on player claims when it comes to complaints.

(Just a kind reminder: please use the "reply" button, otherwise the person you wrote to will not be notified. Thank you 🙂)

Not only is it cheap, the casino operators know that under this license, or whatever that is, they can cheat players without them being prosecuted for anything.

Es ist nicht nur günstig, die Casinobetreiber wissen das sie unter dieser Lizenz, oder was auch immer das ist, die Spieler betrügen können ohne das sie wegen irgendwas belangt werden können.

They will keep that up as long as authorities are behind with doing something about it. This is nothing new. When social media was on the rise it was used by pedophiles to get in contact with kids. Parents panicked, authorities didn't have a clue how to react. It was mostly the kids that showed their parents or teachers how to protect their Facebook profiles not the other way around.

Authorities everywhere now put in new legislation to get a hold on money laundering using crypto currencies. Anonymous transactions going in and out the EU are being outlawed soon .Banks refuse transactions if it's not clear where they come from and so on. But only recently. The last 6 years bitcoin was the best option to get your dirty money transferred into a legal investment.

And look at what happens right now in Germany. The GGL is not shutting down the casinos site if they operate illegal, nope they block the players IP address from accessing the site.

Honestly, I would wait for the complaint to develop further. I can understand that you feel cheated, but I will wait for the conclusion.

I found this. Online casino city is not a forum or reviews they more a Wikipedia just for gambling. The site can be a bit difficult to navigate at times but its a great resource. They list any casino online or landbased , including who owns it , what license do they hold, and so on. If you dig deep enough you will find information what regulations are in place worldwide ,what local authority deals with it including names and so on. Anyways the link gives a short overview to Curacao licensing. There are basically 2 kinds. A master license or a sublime license which covers only a certain part of the master license. At least that explains why so many casinos have the same license numbers.

The second link is from a Curacao based company with the dull name FastOffshore. It's who you call if you need a offshore company. They got all the tools And they are the ones that setup those sublime licenses.

https://online.casinocity.com/jurisdictions/cura%C3%A7ao/

https://fastoffshore.com/what-we-do/gaming-license/

Hello, Frankey

thank you for those sources, I went through similar sites a few days back because I intend to post basic information regarding those basic 4 types of Curacao licenses - based on the provider.:

Gaming Curacao (GC) #365/JAZ

Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) #5536/JAZ

Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (Curacao-eGaming) #1668/JAZ

Antillephone NV #8048/JAZ

I must say it's quite a mess though.

I'm curious about that.

Da bin ich ha mal gespannt.